I have 0.17 checked out, so I have the updated ec2 scripts, but I'm
confused about the setup.

In the aforementioned EC2 wiki page, it has a configuration section
labeled "(Pre 0.17) Hadoop cluster variables (GROUP, MASTER_HOST,
NO_INSTANCES)".  I had assumed that I would actually need hadoop-0.17
on my ec2 instances in order to forgo those instructions.  It sounds
like you're telling me that all the "pre 0.17" or "0.17" specific
instructions in the wiki page refer only to the ec2 creation scripts,
not the actual running version in the cluster, is that correct?

Also, how safe is it to run a different version of the ec2 scripts
from the actual running hadoop instance?  I'm guessing it's pretty
safe since you suggested it :)

Thanks again for all the help - still wrapping my mind around this stuff.

-- Jim

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Chris K Wensel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you only need the contrib/ec2 scripts from 0.17. you don't need Hadoop
> 0.17.0.
>
>  just checkout the scripts and use them with whatever version of Hadoop you
> are most comfortable with (the version that works with HBase I expect).
>
>
>
>  On May 7, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Jim R. Wilson wrote:
>
>
> > Cool cool - thanks again Chris.
> >
> > I'm thinking I should use hadoop-0.17 instead of 0.16.3 at this time
> > because it appears 0.17 has better support for ec2 (less
> > configuration, no dyndns necessary etc).
> >
> > Is there a public directory somewhere which houses nightly branch
> > builds? or do I need to build 0.17 myself, then post it somewhere
> > (like s3) and have the script access that?
> >
> > -- Jim
> >
> > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Chris K Wensel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > you do need the whole ec2 tree for the scripts to work...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 7, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Jim R. Wilson wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Nevermind, looks like I needed these:
> > > > ./src/contrib/ec2/bin/image/create-hadoop-image-remote
> > > > ./src/contrib/ec2/bin/create-hadoop-image
> > > >
> > > > -- Jim
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Jim R. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > > Where do I get this supposed "image/create-hadoop-remote" script?  I
> > > > > couldn't `find` it anywhere within the hadoop svn tree, and the link
> > > > > in the hadoop wiki is broken :/
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Jim
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Chris K Wensel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > You don't need 0.17 to use the scripts mentioned in the EC2 wiki
> page.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > Just
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > grab contrib/ec2 from the 0.17.0 branch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > as for images, you will need to update the
> image/create-hadoop-remote
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > bash
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > script to download and install hbase.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and update hadoop-init to start it with the proper properties.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > once you look at these scripts, it should be fairly obvious what
> you
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > need
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > then just run 'create-image' command to stuff this new image into
> one
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > of
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > your buckets.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > enjoy
> > > > > > ckw
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On May 7, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Jim R. Wilson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm about to embark on a mystical journey through hosted
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > web-services
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > with my trusted friend hbase.  Here are some questions for my
> fellow
> > > > > > > travelers:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) Has anyone done this before? If so, what lifesaving tips can
> you
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > offer?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2) Should I attempt to build an hdfs out of ec2 persistent
> storage,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > just use S3?
> > > > > > > 3) How many images will I need? Just one, or master/slave?
> > > > > > > 4) What version of hadoop/hbase should I use?  (The hadoop/ec2
> > > > > > > instructions[1] seem to favor the unreleased 0.17, but there
> doesn't
> > > > > > > seem to be a public image with 0.17 at the ready)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any advice, I'm gearing up for quite a
> trip :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/AmazonEC2
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -- Jim R. Wilson (jimbojw)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris K Wensel
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > http://chris.wensel.net/
> > > > > > http://www.cascading.org/
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> > > Chris K Wensel
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://chris.wensel.net/
> > > http://www.cascading.org/
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>  Chris K Wensel
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