That means we have to stick to the principle of MR whenever we require
efficient data processing ..
but map reduce cannot offer solutions to gnrl database problems i guess!

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Amandeep Khurana <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:01 AM, bharath vissapragada <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > suppose i non MR codes using java API such that it involves pprocessing
> of
> > huge data (100s of GBs) .. then is there an overhead of fetching data
> (such
> > a huge amnt) from other machines ..?
>
>
> Ofcourse. Network and I/O overheads definitely plague processing large
> datasets.
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Amandeep Khurana <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > HBase is meant to store large tables. The intention is to store data in
> a
> > > way thats more scalable as compared to traditional database systems.
> Now,
> > > HBase is built over Hadoop and has the option of being used as the data
> > > store for MR jobs. However, thats not the only purpose.
> > >
> > > In all data storage systems (except embedded databases), you would have
> > to
> > > fetch data to where computation has to be performed. The whole MR
> design
> > > philosophy is to take the code to the data and execute it as close to
> > where
> > > the data is stored as possible.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:48 PM, bharath vissapragada <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > That means .. it is not very useful to write java codes (using API)
>  ..
> > > > because any way it is not using the real power of hadoop(distributed
> > > > processing) instead it has the overhead of fetching data from other
> > > > machines
> > > > right?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Amandeep Khurana <[email protected]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yes.. Only if you use MR. If you are writing your own code, it'll
> > pull
> > > > the
> > > > > records to the place where you run the code.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Fernando Padilla <
> > [email protected]
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > That is if you use Hadoop MapReduce right? Not if you simply
> access
> > > > HBase
> > > > > > through a standard api (like java)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7/21/09 9:49 PM, Amandeep Khurana wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Bharath,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The processing is done as local to the RS as possible. The first
> > > > attempt
> > > > > >> is
> > > > > >> at doing it local on the same node. If thats not possible, its
> > done
> > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> same rack.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> -ak
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:43 PM, bharath vissapragada<
> > > > > >> [email protected]>  wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>  Hi all,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I have one simple doubt in hbase ,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Suppose i use a scanner to iterate through all the rows in the
> > > hbase
> > > > > and
> > > > > >>> process the data in the table corresponding to those rows .Is
> the
> > > > > >>> processing
> > > > > >>> of that data done locally on the region server in which that
> > > > particular
> > > > > >>> region is located or is it transferred over network so that all
> > the
> > > > > >>> processing is done on a single machine on which that script
> > runs!!
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> thanks
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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