Hi Michael and Matt,

Thanks for getting back to me, that's cleared things up a lot. I
essentially wanted to know if the FreeSurfer output is expected to be
different if run again and whether the surfaces in '$subject/T1w/Native/'
are the same as those that would be in '$subject/T1w/$subject/surf/' if
provided.

Best wishes
Tara

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Glasser, Matthew <[email protected]>
wrote:

>  And you cannot have rerun FreeSurfer and then expect the counts to match
> what is in the HCP releases.
>
>  Peace,
>
>  Matt.
>
>   From: <Harms>, Michael <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 8:39 AM
> To: Tara Ganepola <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <
> [email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] Freesurfer pipeline and subject's native surfaces
>
>    Hi,
> Are you comparing the FS output in
> '$subject/T1w/$subject/surf/{lh,rh}.white' to
> '$subject/T1w/Native/$subject.{L,R}.white.native.surf.gii?
> Because those should indeed have the same number of vertices and faces for
> a given hemisphere.
>
>  Rather than using 'mris_convert', what happens if you just use
> 'mris_info' directly on the lh.white file, and 'wb_command
> -file-information' on the L.white.native.surf.gii file?
>
>  cheers,
> -MH
>
>   --
> Michael Harms, Ph.D.
>  -----------------------------------------------------------
> Conte Center for the Neuroscience of Mental Disorders
> Washington University School of Medicine
> Department of Psychiatry, Box 8134
> 660 South Euclid Ave. Tel: 314-747-6173
> St. Louis, MO  63110 Email: [email protected]
>
>   From: Tara Ganepola <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, June 4, 2015 11:07 AM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [HCP-Users] Freesurfer pipeline and subject's native surfaces
>
>   Hello,
>
>  My question is related to the FreeSurfer pipeline scripts and the
> contents of the 'subject/T1w/Native/' directories. After running the
> FreeSurferPipelineBatch.sh locally should I expect the surfaces to be
> identical to those found in 'subject/T1w/Native/' or is there an additional
> step of processing between these?
>
>  I have done this for a few subjects and noticed that the vertex count is
> different. For example for subject 100307 the file
> 100307.R.white.native.surf.gii has 128346 vertices and the output of the
> FreeSurfer pipeline, rh.white has 128900. (the vertex counts were
> determined by converting to ascii format using mris_convert).
>
>  Ultimately, I am aiming to sample the diffusion weighted data at
> different cortical depths with an in house script that required
> freesurfer's binary surface format. I would like the best possible surfaces
> for subjects in their native space, the quickest method would be to convert
> the provided gifti files back, but as the files seem to have different
> vertex counts I was unsure whether they are equivalent or if they have been
> through some transformation?
>
>  Many thanks
> Tara
>
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Glasser, Matthew <[email protected]>
wrote:

>  And you cannot have rerun FreeSurfer and then expect the counts to match
> what is in the HCP releases.
>
>  Peace,
>
>  Matt.
>
>   From: <Harms>, Michael <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 8:39 AM
> To: Tara Ganepola <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <
> [email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] Freesurfer pipeline and subject's native surfaces
>
>    Hi,
> Are you comparing the FS output in
> '$subject/T1w/$subject/surf/{lh,rh}.white' to
> '$subject/T1w/Native/$subject.{L,R}.white.native.surf.gii?
> Because those should indeed have the same number of vertices and faces for
> a given hemisphere.
>
>  Rather than using 'mris_convert', what happens if you just use
> 'mris_info' directly on the lh.white file, and 'wb_command
> -file-information' on the L.white.native.surf.gii file?
>
>  cheers,
> -MH
>
>   --
> Michael Harms, Ph.D.
>  -----------------------------------------------------------
> Conte Center for the Neuroscience of Mental Disorders
> Washington University School of Medicine
> Department of Psychiatry, Box 8134
> 660 South Euclid Ave. Tel: 314-747-6173
> St. Louis, MO  63110 Email: [email protected]
>
>   From: Tara Ganepola <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, June 4, 2015 11:07 AM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [HCP-Users] Freesurfer pipeline and subject's native surfaces
>
>   Hello,
>
>  My question is related to the FreeSurfer pipeline scripts and the
> contents of the 'subject/T1w/Native/' directories. After running the
> FreeSurferPipelineBatch.sh locally should I expect the surfaces to be
> identical to those found in 'subject/T1w/Native/' or is there an additional
> step of processing between these?
>
>  I have done this for a few subjects and noticed that the vertex count is
> different. For example for subject 100307 the file
> 100307.R.white.native.surf.gii has 128346 vertices and the output of the
> FreeSurfer pipeline, rh.white has 128900. (the vertex counts were
> determined by converting to ascii format using mris_convert).
>
>  Ultimately, I am aiming to sample the diffusion weighted data at
> different cortical depths with an in house script that required
> freesurfer's binary surface format. I would like the best possible surfaces
> for subjects in their native space, the quickest method would be to convert
> the provided gifti files back, but as the files seem to have different
> vertex counts I was unsure whether they are equivalent or if they have been
> through some transformation?
>
>  Many thanks
> Tara
>
> _______________________________________________
> HCP-Users mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://lists.humanconnectome.org/mailman/listinfo/hcp-users
>
>
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