Hi all,
 I just re-read the latest release notes.

How does one access:


   - Border mode improvements including Border optimize to provide
   semi-automatic optimization of parcel borders based on single or
   multi-modal gradients

Is this what I'm thinking it is? (i.e., allowing parcellation given
multiple outputs from wb_command -cifti-gradient?)

akin to the very coarse way Matt G. and I were trying way back when?

-Alex


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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Matthew George Liptrot <[email protected]>
> To: HCP Listserv <[email protected]>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:02:38 +0000
> Subject: [HCP-Users] Mapping grayordinate vertices to atlas labels
> Hi,
>
> After generating dense connectivity maps (*.dconn.nii files) from the HCP
> DWI data, we would like to use previous parcellations (e.g.
> Desikan-Killiany) to assess the reproducibility across subjects. As the
> grayordinates vertices are assumed to be anatomically-matched across
> subjects, then there should be a single lookup table to convert from HCP
> grayordinates to a given parcellation, correct?
>
> If so, does anyone have this as a simple table?
>
> If not, what is the easiest way to generate it?
>
> I realise that I can print out a (apparently zero-based) lookup table of
> Label_IDs and Label_Names by doing:
>
> wb_command -file–information
> 100307/MNINonLinear/fsaverage_LR32k/100307.aparc.a2009s.32k_fs_LR.dlabel.nii
>
> Which produces:
>
> Name:                    100307.aparc.a2009s.32k_fs_LR.dlabel.nii
> Type:                    Connectivity - Dense Label
> Structure:               CortexLeft CortexRight
> Data Size:               237.65 Kilobytes
> Maps to Surface:         true
> Maps to Volume:          false
> Maps with LabelTable:    true
> Maps with Palette:       false
> Number of Maps:          1
> Number of Rows:          59412
> Number of Columns:       1
> Volume Dim[0]:           0
> Volume Dim[1]:           0
> Volume Dim[2]:           0
> Palette Type:            None
> CIFTI Dim[0]:            1
> CIFTI Dim[1]:            59412
> ALONG_ROW map type:      LABELS
> ALONG_COLUMN map type:   BRAIN_MODELS
>     Has Volume Data:     false
>     CortexLeft:          29696 out of 32492 vertices
>     CortexRight:         29716 out of 32492 vertices
>
> Map   Map Name
>   1   100307_aparc.a2009s
>
> Label table for ALL maps
>        KEY   NAME                            RED   GREEN    BLUE   ALPHA
>          0   ???                           0.000   0.000   0.000   0.000
>          1   L_G_and_S_frontomargin        0.090   0.863   0.235   1.000
>          2   L_G_and_S_occipital_inf       0.090   0.235   0.706   1.000
>          3   L_G_and_S_paracentral         0.247   0.392   0.235   1.000
> …
>        147   R_S_subparietal               0.396   0.235   0.235   1.000
>        148   R_S_temporal_inf              0.082   0.706   0.706   1.000
>        149   R_S_temporal_sup              0.875   0.863   0.235   1.000
>        150   R_S_temporal_transverse       0.867   0.235   0.235   1.000
>
>  Also, the following command:
>
>  wb_command -nifti-information -print-matrix
> 100307/MNINonLinear/fsaverage_LR32k/100307.aparc.a2009s.32k_fs_LR.dlabel.nii
>
>  produces the Label_ID : Vertex_Number mapping (again apparently
> zero-based):
>
> Row 0: 72
> Row 1: 27
> Row 2: 29
> Row 3: 16
> Row 4: 59
> Row 5: 26
>
> …
> Row 59407: 113
> Row 59408: 113
> Row 59409: 113
> Row 59410: 113
> Row 59411: 113
>
> Is this the correct data to use to create a (label_name : vertex_number)
> lookup table?
>
> Cheers,
>
> M@
> --
> *Matthew George Liptrot*
>
> <http://about.me/matthewliptrot>
> *Department of Computer Science*
> *University of Copenhagen*
> &
> *Section for Cognitive Systems*
> *Department of Applied Mathematics and Computer Science*
> *Technical University of Denmark*
>
> http://about.me/matthewliptrot
>
>
> <http://about.me/matthewliptrot>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Stamatios Sotiropoulos <[email protected]>
> To: Matthew George Liptrot <[email protected]>
> Cc: HCP Listserv <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:09:14 +0000
> Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] Mapping grayordinate vertices to atlas labels
> Hi Matthew
>
> look at wb_command -cifti-parcellate.
>
> You will need to run this twice (once along ROW and another time along
> COLUMN) to get a connectome parcellated along both dimensions.
>
> Cheers
> Stam
>
>
> On 16 Sep 2015, at 15:02, Matthew George Liptrot <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> After generating dense connectivity maps (*.dconn.nii files) from the HCP
> DWI data, we would like to use previous parcellations (e.g.
> Desikan-Killiany) to assess the reproducibility across subjects. As the
> grayordinates vertices are assumed to be anatomically-matched across
> subjects, then there should be a single lookup table to convert from HCP
> grayordinates to a given parcellation, correct?
>
> If so, does anyone have this as a simple table?
>
> If not, what is the easiest way to generate it?
>
> I realise that I can print out a (apparently zero-based) lookup table of
> Label_IDs and Label_Names by doing:
>
> wb_command -file–information
> 100307/MNINonLinear/fsaverage_LR32k/100307.aparc.a2009s.32k_fs_LR.dlabel.nii
>
> Which produces:
>
> Name:                    100307.aparc.a2009s.32k_fs_LR.dlabel.nii
> Type:                    Connectivity - Dense Label
> Structure:               CortexLeft CortexRight
> Data Size:               237.65 Kilobytes
> Maps to Surface:         true
> Maps to Volume:          false
> Maps with LabelTable:    true
> Maps with Palette:       false
> Number of Maps:          1
> Number of Rows:          59412
> Number of Columns:       1
> Volume Dim[0]:           0
> Volume Dim[1]:           0
> Volume Dim[2]:           0
> Palette Type:            None
> CIFTI Dim[0]:            1
> CIFTI Dim[1]:            59412
> ALONG_ROW map type:      LABELS
> ALONG_COLUMN map type:   BRAIN_MODELS
>     Has Volume Data:     false
>     CortexLeft:          29696 out of 32492 vertices
>     CortexRight:         29716 out of 32492 vertices
>
> Map   Map Name
>   1   100307_aparc.a2009s
>
> Label table for ALL maps
>        KEY   NAME                            RED   GREEN    BLUE   ALPHA
>          0   ???                           0.000   0.000   0.000   0.000
>          1   L_G_and_S_frontomargin        0.090   0.863   0.235   1.000
>          2   L_G_and_S_occipital_inf       0.090   0.235   0.706   1.000
>          3   L_G_and_S_paracentral         0.247   0.392   0.235   1.000
> …
>        147   R_S_subparietal               0.396   0.235   0.235   1.000
>        148   R_S_temporal_inf              0.082   0.706   0.706   1.000
>        149   R_S_temporal_sup              0.875   0.863   0.235   1.000
>        150   R_S_temporal_transverse       0.867   0.235   0.235   1.000
>
>  Also, the following command:
>
>  wb_command -nifti-information -print-matrix
> 100307/MNINonLinear/fsaverage_LR32k/100307.aparc.a2009s.32k_fs_LR.dlabel.nii
>
>  produces the Label_ID : Vertex_Number mapping (again apparently
> zero-based):
>
> Row 0: 72
> Row 1: 27
> Row 2: 29
> Row 3: 16
> Row 4: 59
> Row 5: 26
>
> …
> Row 59407: 113
> Row 59408: 113
> Row 59409: 113
> Row 59410: 113
> Row 59411: 113
>
> Is this the correct data to use to create a (label_name : vertex_number)
> lookup table?
>
> Cheers,
>
> M@
> --
> *Matthew George Liptrot*
>
> <http://about.me/matthewliptrot>
> *Department of Computer Science*
> *University of Copenhagen*
> &
> *Section for Cognitive Systems*
> *Department of Applied Mathematics and Computer Science*
> *Technical University of Denmark*
>
> http://about.me/matthewliptrot
>
>
> <http://about.me/matthewliptrot>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Harms, Michael" <[email protected]>
> To: Matthew George Liptrot <[email protected]>, HCP Listserv <
> [email protected]>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:10:57 +0000
> Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] Mapping grayordinate vertices to atlas labels
>
> No, there is going to variability in the label for a given vertex across
> subjects.  You would want to use the aparc.a2009s.32k_fs_LR.dlabel.nii that
> is specific to each subject.
>
> cheers,
> -MH
>
> --
> Michael Harms, Ph.D.
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Conte Center for the Neuroscience of Mental Disorders
> Washington University School of Medicine
> Department of Psychiatry, Box 8134
> 660 South Euclid Ave. Tel: 314-747-6173
> St. Louis, MO  63110 Email: [email protected]
>
> From: Matthew George Liptrot <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:02 AM
> To: HCP Listserv <[email protected]>
> Subject: [HCP-Users] Mapping grayordinate vertices to atlas labels
>
> Hi,
>
> After generating dense connectivity maps (*.dconn.nii files) from the HCP
> DWI data, we would like to use previous parcellations (e.g.
> Desikan-Killiany) to assess the reproducibility across subjects. As the
> grayordinates vertices are assumed to be anatomically-matched across
> subjects, then there should be a single lookup table to convert from HCP
> grayordinates to a given parcellation, correct?
>
> If so, does anyone have this as a simple table?
>
> If not, what is the easiest way to generate it?
>
> I realise that I can print out a (apparently zero-based) lookup table of
> Label_IDs and Label_Names by doing:
>
> wb_command -file–information
> 100307/MNINonLinear/fsaverage_LR32k/100307.aparc.a2009s.32k_fs_LR.dlabel.nii
>
> Which produces:
>
> Name:                    100307.aparc.a2009s.32k_fs_LR.dlabel.nii
> Type:                    Connectivity - Dense Label
> Structure:               CortexLeft CortexRight
> Data Size:               237.65 Kilobytes
> Maps to Surface:         true
> Maps to Volume:          false
> Maps with LabelTable:    true
> Maps with Palette:       false
> Number of Maps:          1
> Number of Rows:          59412
> Number of Columns:       1
> Volume Dim[0]:           0
> Volume Dim[1]:           0
> Volume Dim[2]:           0
> Palette Type:            None
> CIFTI Dim[0]:            1
> CIFTI Dim[1]:            59412
> ALONG_ROW map type:      LABELS
> ALONG_COLUMN map type:   BRAIN_MODELS
>     Has Volume Data:     false
>     CortexLeft:          29696 out of 32492 vertices
>     CortexRight:         29716 out of 32492 vertices
>
> Map   Map Name
>   1   100307_aparc.a2009s
>
> Label table for ALL maps
>        KEY   NAME                            RED   GREEN    BLUE   ALPHA
>          0   ???                           0.000   0.000   0.000   0.000
>          1   L_G_and_S_frontomargin        0.090   0.863   0.235   1.000
>          2   L_G_and_S_occipital_inf       0.090   0.235   0.706   1.000
>          3   L_G_and_S_paracentral         0.247   0.392   0.235   1.000
> …
>        147   R_S_subparietal               0.396   0.235   0.235   1.000
>        148   R_S_temporal_inf              0.082   0.706   0.706   1.000
>        149   R_S_temporal_sup              0.875   0.863   0.235   1.000
>        150   R_S_temporal_transverse       0.867   0.235   0.235   1.000
>
>  Also, the following command:
>
>  wb_command -nifti-information -print-matrix
> 100307/MNINonLinear/fsaverage_LR32k/100307.aparc.a2009s.32k_fs_LR.dlabel.nii
>
>  produces the Label_ID : Vertex_Number mapping (again apparently
> zero-based):
>
> Row 0: 72
> Row 1: 27
> Row 2: 29
> Row 3: 16
> Row 4: 59
> Row 5: 26
>
> …
> Row 59407: 113
> Row 59408: 113
> Row 59409: 113
> Row 59410: 113
> Row 59411: 113
>
> Is this the correct data to use to create a (label_name : vertex_number)
> lookup table?
>
> Cheers,
>
> M@
> --
> *Matthew George Liptrot*
>
> <http://about.me/matthewliptrot>
> *Department of Computer Science*
> *University of Copenhagen*
> &
> *Section for Cognitive Systems*
> *Department of Applied Mathematics and Computer Science*
> *Technical University of Denmark*
>
> http://about.me/matthewliptrot
>
>
> <http://about.me/matthewliptrot>
>
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