Hi HCP Users,

I'm interested in vmPFC structures including the subgenual ACC and in 
particular area 25, which I'm noticing doesn't seem to be fully represented in 
standard grayordinate space.  When I look at any dense connectome file, either 
ones I've generated or the population averages, it seems the most caudal parts 
of the vmPFC, particularly area 25 are missing.  Here I'm defining area 25 
simply based on the OFP03 parcellation borders registered to the fs_LR atlas.  
In particular I notice that the left hemisphere area 25 seems to be completely 
absent from the standard grayordinate space, and the right hemisphere appears 
to be partially included.

This seems odd for a number of reasons.  In particular, when I look at the 
goodvoxels.nii.gz for my subjects the voxels in the most caudal vmPFC regions 
are included, so the signal from these voxels is getting sampled into standard 
grayordinate space somewhere.  Also, when I look at the medial wall masks, none 
of them seem to exclude the area 25 parcellation region, so I don't think it's 
getting masked out.

I guess I'm confused about how and/or why these regions are getting excluded 
from the grayordinate system.  My thoughts are twofold.  1) Maybe this is just 
a problem with visualization or registration of the OFP03 parcellation to the 
fs_LR surfaces. The Van Essen '11 paper in Cerebral Cortex says those drawn 
onto a flat surface, registered to the PALS atlas and then registered to the 
fs_LR atlas.  Could it just be that the registration didn't work well in this 
region?  2) Could it be an actual issue with the anatomy in this region getting 
left out of the grayordinate space based on how that space is defined?  I'm 
thinking about the cortical gray matter that is ventral and medial to the most 
anterior end of the striatum, which maybe is getting excluded from the cortical 
surface, but also not included in the subcortex because it is not a part of any 
of the subcortical structures within the grayordinate space.

Any ideas on what's happening here?  I'm confident the signal is there after 
looking at the RibbonToSurfaceMapping, I just don't know where that signal is, 
or if it's been mixed with signal from more rostral areas of the vmPFC.  Any 
help would be much appreciated.


Thanks,
Jared





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