PALM isn’t intended to replace the level 1 (timeseries) analysis. Permutation 
testing doesn’t handle the autocorrelated timeseries appropriately, because 
time points are not truly exchangeable.

It should be possible to do a repeated measures analysis in PALM (treating 
acitvation estimates from each run as repeated measures). However, the easiest 
use would be to use the output of the level 2 analyses as inputs to a simple 
group-level random effects analysis.

As an aside, if you’re attending the 2016 HCP Course in Boston 
(https://www.humanconnectome.org/courses/2016/exploring-the-human-connectome.php),
 you will be able to go through a practical session on this! (We hope to 
release the practicals to the public after the course, but that will likely 
take some time to implement.)

--Greg

____________________________________________________________________
Greg Burgess, Ph.D.
Staff Scientist, Human Connectome Project
Washington University School of Medicine
Department of Psychiatry
Phone: 314-362-7864
Email: [email protected]

> On Aug 4, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Michael F.W. Dreyfuss <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, I am trying to adapt palm into my analysis scripts upon your 
> recommendation and I have a few questions:
>
> 1) Does this function essentially like FEAT/film_gls? That is, should I be 
> running PALM for level 1 (run), level 2 (subject) and level 3 (group) 
> analyses, or just at one of these levels?
>
> 2) Are there any examples available of how I can work palm in place of 
> film_gls in existing HCP processing scripts? I'm thinking of lines like the 
> following:
>
>   #Run film_gls on subcortical volume data
>   film_gls --rn=${FEATDir}/SubcorticalVolumeStats --sa --ms=5 
> -in=${FEATDir}/${LevelOnefMRIName}_AtlasSubcortical"$TemporalFilterString""$SmoothingString".nii.gz
>  --pd="$DesignMatrix" --con=${DesignContrasts} --fcon=${DesignfContrasts} 
> --thr=1 --mode=volumetric
>   rm 
> ${FEATDir}/${LevelOnefMRIName}_AtlasSubcortical"$TemporalFilterString""$SmoothingString".nii.gz
>
> 3) Can I simply use the same design files produces by feat_model from my fsf 
> files? Such as done at the line:
>
> feat_model ${FEATDir}/design ${ResultsFolder}/${LevelOnefMRIName}/${Confound}
>
> 4) For motion, is it recommended to you detrended regressors on non-detrended 
> regressors?
>
> Sorry for all the questions but I am finding few examples available of how 
> this is implemented practically.
>
> Thank you,
> Michael Dreyfuss
> MD-PhD Student
> Weill Cornell Medical College
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