Whether to use MSMAll vs MSMSulc depends on whether you want to have folds 
aligned or areas.  For most kinds of neuroimaging analyses, having areas 
aligned is most desirable, but if you are interested in folding patterns or the 
effects of folding on cortical thickness you might prefer the folding-based 
registration.

Peace,

Matt.

From: "Harms, Michael" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 2:50 PM
To: Benjamin Risk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Matt Glasser 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Peka 
Savayan <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] 2 thickness files


Yes, that is correct.
The creation of the corrThickness file is done in the CreateMyelinMaps.sh 
script in the PostFreeSurfer pipeline:

${CARET7DIR}/wb_command -metric-regression 
"$AtlasSpaceFolder"/"$NativeFolder"/"$Subject"."$Hemisphere".thickness.native.shape.gii
 
"$AtlasSpaceFolder"/"$NativeFolder"/"$Subject"."$Hemisphere".corrThickness.native.shape.gii
 -roi 
"$AtlasSpaceFolder"/"$NativeFolder"/"$Subject"."$Hemisphere".roi.native.shape.gii
 -remove 
"$AtlasSpaceFolder"/"$NativeFolder"/"$Subject"."$Hemisphere”.curvature.native.shape.gii

And the usage statement for -metric-regression is:

-metric-regression

REGRESS METRICS OUT OF A METRIC FILE

   wb_command -metric-regression

      <metric-in> - the metric to regress from

      <metric-out> - output - the output metric


      [-roi] - only regress inside an roi

         <roi-metric> - the area to use for regression, as a metric


      [-column] - select a single column to regress from

         <column> - the column number or name


      [-remove] - repeatable - specify a metric to regress out

         <metric> - the metric file to use


         [-remove-column] - select a column to use, rather than all

            <column> - the column number or name


      [-keep] - repeatable - specify a metric to include in regression, but not

         remove

         <metric> - the metric file to use


         [-keep-column] - select a column to use, rather than all

            <column> - the column number or name


      For each regressor, its mean across the surface is subtracted from its

      data.  Each input map is then regressed against these, and a constant

      term.  The resulting regressed slopes of all regressors specified with

      -remove are multiplied with their respective regressor maps, and these

      are subtracted from the input map.

cheers,
-MH

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Michael Harms, Ph.D.
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Conte Center for the Neuroscience of Mental Disorders
Washington University School of Medicine
Department of Psychiatry, Box 8134
660 South Euclid Ave. Tel: 314-747-6173
St. Louis, MO  63110 Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 on behalf of Benjamin Risk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 11:10 AM
To: "Glasser, Matthew" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Peka 
Savayan <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] 2 thickness files

I have a follow-up question on what you mean by "regressed out." If thickness_v 
= b0 + b1*curvature_v + error_v for the vth location, is corrThickness_v = 
thickness_v - b1*curvature_v?

Also, I am conducting a multisubject analysis of cortical thickness. Is it your 
opinion that MSM-All offers the best registration across subjects? It's not 
clear to me if the addition of information from resting-state correlations 
would benefit my analysis, so I will probably also look at results using 
MSM-Sulc.

Thank you,
Ben

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Glasser, Matthew 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thickness is the raw thickness output from FreeSurfer.  CorrThickness has the 
linear effects of curvature regressed out.  It is better for seeing how 
thickness changes across cortical areas (as the surface folding exerts a strong 
effect on cortical thickness by making gyri thicker and sulci thinner).

Peace,

Matt.

From: 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 on behalf of Peka Savayan <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 7:29 AM
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [HCP-Users] 2 thickness files

Dear Experts,

What is the difference between subID.L.corrThickness.native.shape.gii
and subID.L.thickness.native.shape.gii?
Both are in the preprocessed directory, MNINonLinear/Native

For example: 100307.L.corrThickness.native.shape.gii
and 100307.L.thickness.native.shape.gii

Where I can obtain a detailed description of both files?

best,
Peka

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