Hi Elisa,

On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:02 PM, elisa sibarani wrote:

> Hi Quincey,
> 
> Thank you for your answer. It is indeed help so much, but is it possible that 
> the next release (1.10.0) is already finish and when will be the distribution 
> of the new library?

        The 1.10.0 is not finished yet and may not be ready for another 6+ 
months.

> Where can I find the proposal documentation or any kind of document which 
> explain about the journaling metadata and the mirroring virtual file driver 
> for replication?

        Here's the URL for the metadata journaling RFC:

http://www.hdfgroup.org/pubs/rfcs/Metadata_Journaling_RFC.pdf

        The mirroring VFD was just an idea I've tossed around, it's not 
implemented (or on our current plan to implement) and doesn't have an RFC 
describing it.  I don't think it would be too difficult to implement however, 
if you'd like to give it a try.

        Quincey

> Thank you so much
> 
> Regards,
> Elisa
> 
> --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Quincey Koziol <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> From: Quincey Koziol <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Hdf-forum] Handle concurrency, transaction (or any features 
> provided) in HDF5 compare to SQL Server
> To: "HDF Users Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 8:04 AM
> 
> Hi Elisa,
> 
> On Aug 18, 2010, at 9:57 AM, elisa sibarani wrote:
> 
> > what I mean is not really the same feature as SQL Server has, but all 
> > features regarding reading from a file. I've read your reply to hdf forum 
> > as follows:
> > 
> >  True concurrent access to a file when it is being written to is not 
> > currently supported. We are working to add a single-writer/multiple-reader 
> > access mode for the next release (1.10.0), but it's not available yet.  The 
> > current way to have pseudo-concurrent access to a file is found here: 
> > http://www.hdfgroup.org/hdf5-quest.html#grdwt
> > 
> >         Quincey
> > 
> > therefore, this H5Fflush is able to handle concurrency for reading a file?
> 
>     Yes, when the SWMR feature is finished, it will support a particular form 
> of concurrent access to HDF5 files.  Along those "database" lines, we are 
> finishing up support for journaling metadata updates to HDF5 files, which 
> resembles transactions on modifications to HDF5 files, at least in the sense 
> that all the changes from an HDF5 API routine will either be atomically 
> reflected in the file, or not.  It is also possible to implement a 
> "mirroring" virtual file driver for replicating modifications to HDF5 files, 
> although we don't have one currently implemented.
> 
>     Quincey
> 
> > thanks
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 8/18/10, Quincey Koziol <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > From: Quincey Koziol <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [Hdf-forum] Handle concurrency, transaction (or any features 
> > provided) in HDF5 compare to SQL Server
> > To: "HDF Users Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:47 AM
> > 
> > Hi Elisa,
> > 
> > On Aug 18, 2010, at 12:28 AM, elisa sibarani wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > I want to ask is there anyone of you can shares information about HDF5 
> > > features available until now? If I want to recommend my company to use 
> > > HDF5, now I have to make sure it'll work at least as reliable as SQL 
> > > Server. Therefore, I want to make a comparison about services/features 
> > > available in SQL Server such as transaction (locking process), 
> > > concurrency, replication (for back up) and so on. How I can get such 
> > > information about HDF5?
> > 
> >     HDF5 does not have transactions, concurrency or replication features.  
> > It is not a database.  It is designed for storing and sharing large 
> > array-like datasets in a hierarchically structured file (see 
> > http://www.hdfgroup.org/HDF5/whatishdf5.html for some more details and 
> > documentation).
> > 
> >     Quincey
> > 
> > > Or maybe if anyone has experience (at least once) to move from SQL Server 
> > > to HDF5, maybe you can share about what list of things I should put in 
> > > mind for this changes?
> > > 
> > > Thanks all.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Elisa
> > > 
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