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Jian Fang commented on HDFS-3743:
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Unfortunately, this feature is critical for Hadoop providers in cloud. HA does 
not really work without this feature because a node in cloud, for example, EC2 
instance,  could be gone at any time and a replacement will be launched. The 
new JN on the replacement instance must be configured automatically. Could you 
please provide us some guides on how to implement this feature? Thanks a lot.

> QJM: improve formatting behavior for JNs
> ----------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HDFS-3743
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-3743
>             Project: Hadoop HDFS
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>    Affects Versions: QuorumJournalManager (HDFS-3077)
>            Reporter: Todd Lipcon
>
> Currently, the JournalNodes automatically format themselves when a new writer 
> takes over, if they don't have any data for that namespace. However, this has 
> a few problems:
> 1) if the administrator accidentally points a new NN at the wrong quorum (eg 
> corresponding to another cluster), it will auto-format a directory on those 
> nodes. This doesn't cause any data loss, but would be better to bail out with 
> an error indicating that they need to be formatted.
> 2) if a journal node crashes and needs to be reformatted, it should be able 
> to re-join the cluster and start storing new segments without having to fail 
> over to a new NN.
> 3) if 2/3 JNs get accidentally reformatted (eg the mount point becomes 
> undone), and the user starts the NN, it should fail to start, because it may 
> end up missing edits. If it auto-formats in this case, the user might have 
> silent "rollback" of the most recent edits.



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