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Ayush Saxena edited comment on HDFS-17299 at 12/22/23 6:28 PM:
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The stale node thing was added for a HBase use case only as part of HDFS-3703.

I feel the write shouldn't have failed if it was not able to replace a datanode 
after attempts, it should have went ahead with 2 nodes in the pipeline, if 2 
was greater than the minimum replication, if it doesn't already operate that 
way we should make sure it does, there are some policies in 
ReplaceDatanodeOnFailure.java maybe we can add one to not chase replacement if 
min replication is satisfied.

Not very sure about explicitly passing the entire rack as excluded post n 
retries, but logically doable.

Maybe if you would have put 
{{dfs.client.block.write.replace-datanode-on-failure.enable}} as {{{}false{}}}, 
it wouldn't have tried to replace the DN itself & went ahead with 2 DN from 
other AZ?

[~hexiaoqiao]/[~tasanuma] anyone with any ideas/opinions?

 

EDIT.
{quote}it just took little more than 1 second. I doubt keeping stale datanode 
interval to 9 seconds will help
{quote}
 

Pretty corner case, out of curiosity does HBase has any retry logics, like if 
the write fails once, attempt once more immediately or post some wait?


was (Author: ayushtkn):
The stale node thing was added for a HBase use case only as part of HDFS-3703.

I feel the write shouldn't have failed if it was not able to replace a datanode 
after attempts, it should have went ahead with 2 nodes in the pipeline, if 2 
was greater than the minimum replication, if it doesn't already operate that 
way we should make sure it does, there are some policies in 
ReplaceDatanodeOnFailure.java maybe we can add one to not chase replacement if 
min replication is satisfied.

Not very sure about explicitly passing the entire rack as excluded post n 
retries, but logically doable. 

Maybe if you would have put 
{{dfs.client.block.write.replace-datanode-on-failure.enable}} as {{false}}, it 
wouldn't have tried to replace the DN itself & went ahead with 2 DN from other 
AZ?

[~hexiaoqiao]/[~tasanuma] anyone with any ideas/opinions?

> HDFS is not rack failure tolerant while creating a new file.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HDFS-17299
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-17299
>             Project: Hadoop HDFS
>          Issue Type: Bug
>    Affects Versions: 2.10.1
>            Reporter: Rushabh Shah
>            Priority: Critical
>
> Recently we saw an HBase cluster outage when we mistakenly brought down 1 AZ.
> Our configuration:
> 1. We use 3 Availability Zones (AZs) for fault tolerance.
> 2. We use BlockPlacementPolicyRackFaultTolerant as the block placement policy.
> 3. We use the following configuration parameters: 
> dfs.namenode.heartbeat.recheck-interval: 600000 
> dfs.heartbeat.interval: 3 
> So it will take 1230000 ms (20.5mins) to detect that datanode is dead.
>  
> Steps to reproduce:
>  # Bring down 1 AZ.
>  # HBase (HDFS client) tries to create a file (WAL file) and then calls 
> hflush on the newly created file.
>  # DataStreamer is not able to find blocks locations that satisfies the rack 
> placement policy (one copy in each rack which essentially means one copy in 
> each AZ)
>  # Since all the datanodes in that AZ are down but still alive to namenode, 
> the client gets different datanodes but still all of them are in the same AZ. 
> See logs below.
>  # HBase is not able to create a WAL file and it aborts the region server.
>  
> Relevant logs from hdfs client and namenode
>  
> {noformat}
> 2023-12-16 17:17:43,818 INFO  [on default port 9000] FSNamesystem.audit - 
> allowed=true        ugi=hbase/<rs-name> (auth:KERBEROS)     ip=<rs-IP>      
> cmd=create      src=/hbase/WALs/<WAL-file>      dst=null
> 2023-12-16 17:17:43,978 INFO  [on default port 9000] hdfs.StateChange - 
> BLOCK* allocate blk_1214652565_140946716, replicas=<AZ-1-dn-1>:50010, 
> <AZ-2-dn-1>:50010, <AZ-3-dn-1>:50010 for /hbase/WALs/<WAL-file>
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,061 INFO  [Thread-39087] hdfs.DataStreamer - Exception in 
> createBlockOutputStream
> java.io.IOException: Got error, status=ERROR, status message , ack with 
> firstBadLink as <AZ-2-dn-1>:50010
>         at 
> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.protocol.datatransfer.DataTransferProtoUtil.checkBlockOpStatus(DataTransferProtoUtil.java:113)
>         at 
> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.createBlockOutputStream(DataStreamer.java:1747)
>         at 
> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.nextBlockOutputStream(DataStreamer.java:1651)
>         at org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.run(DataStreamer.java:715)
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,061 WARN  [Thread-39087] hdfs.DataStreamer - Abandoning 
> BP-179318874-<NN-IP>-1594838129323:blk_1214652565_140946716
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,179 WARN  [Thread-39087] hdfs.DataStreamer - Excluding 
> datanode 
> DatanodeInfoWithStorage[<AZ-2-dn-1>:50010,DS-a493abdb-3ac3-49b1-9bfb-848baf5c1c2c,DISK]
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,339 INFO  [on default port 9000] hdfs.StateChange - 
> BLOCK* allocate blk_1214652580_140946764, replicas=<AZ-1-dn-2>:50010, 
> <AZ-3-dn-2>:50010, <AZ-2-dn-2>:50010 for /hbase/WALs/<WAL-file>
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,369 INFO  [Thread-39087] hdfs.DataStreamer - Exception in 
> createBlockOutputStream
> java.io.IOException: Got error, status=ERROR, status message , ack with 
> firstBadLink as <AZ-2-dn-2>:50010
>         at 
> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.protocol.datatransfer.DataTransferProtoUtil.checkBlockOpStatus(DataTransferProtoUtil.java:113)
>         at 
> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.createBlockOutputStream(DataStreamer.java:1747)
>         at 
> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.nextBlockOutputStream(DataStreamer.java:1651)
>         at org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.run(DataStreamer.java:715)
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,369 WARN  [Thread-39087] hdfs.DataStreamer - Abandoning 
> BP-179318874-NN-IP-1594838129323:blk_1214652580_140946764
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,454 WARN  [Thread-39087] hdfs.DataStreamer - Excluding 
> datanode 
> DatanodeInfoWithStorage[AZ-2-dn-2:50010,DS-46bb45cc-af89-46f3-9f9d-24e4fdc35b6d,DISK]
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,522 INFO  [on default port 9000] hdfs.StateChange - 
> BLOCK* allocate blk_1214652594_140946796, replicas=<AZ-1-dn-2>:50010, 
> <AZ-2-dn-3>:50010, <AZ-3-dn-3>:50010 for /hbase/WALs/<WAL-file>
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,712 INFO  [Thread-39087] hdfs.DataStreamer - Exception in 
> createBlockOutputStream
> java.io.IOException: Got error, status=ERROR, status message , ack with 
> firstBadLink as <AZ-2-dn-3>:50010
>         at 
> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.protocol.datatransfer.DataTransferProtoUtil.checkBlockOpStatus(DataTransferProtoUtil.java:113)
>         at 
> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.createBlockOutputStream(DataStreamer.java:1747)
>         at 
> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.nextBlockOutputStream(DataStreamer.java:1651)
>         at org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.run(DataStreamer.java:715)
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,712 WARN  [Thread-39087] hdfs.DataStreamer - Abandoning 
> BP-179318874-NN-IP-1594838129323:blk_1214652594_140946796
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,732 WARN  [Thread-39087] hdfs.DataStreamer - Excluding 
> datanode 
> DatanodeInfoWithStorage[<AZ-2-dn-3>:50010,DS-86b77463-a26f-4f42-ae1b-21b75c407203,DISK]
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,855 INFO  [on default port 9000] hdfs.StateChange - 
> BLOCK* allocate blk_1214652607_140946850, replicas=<AZ-1-dn-4>:50010, 
> <AZ-2-dn-4>:50010, <AZ-3-dn-4>:50010 for /hbase/WALs/<WAL-file>
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,867 INFO  [Thread-39087] hdfs.DataStreamer - Exception in 
> createBlockOutputStream
> java.io.IOException: Got error, status=ERROR, status message , ack with 
> firstBadLink as <AZ-2-dn-4>:50010
>         at 
> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.protocol.datatransfer.DataTransferProtoUtil.checkBlockOpStatus(DataTransferProtoUtil.java:113)
>         at 
> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.createBlockOutputStream(DataStreamer.java:1747)
>         at 
> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.nextBlockOutputStream(DataStreamer.java:1651)
>         at org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.run(DataStreamer.java:715)
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,988 WARN  [Thread-39087] hdfs.DataStreamer - DataStreamer 
> Exception
> java.io.IOException: Unable to create new block.
>         at 
> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.nextBlockOutputStream(DataStreamer.java:1665)
>         at org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DataStreamer.run(DataStreamer.java:715)
> 2023-12-16 17:17:44,988 WARN  [Thread-39087] hdfs.DataStreamer - Could not 
> get block locations. Source file "/hbase/WALs/<WAL-file>" - Aborting...
> {noformat}
>  
> *Proposed fix:*
> Client always correctly identifies the bad datanode in the pipeline.
> The number of retries dfs client makes is controlled by 
> dfs.client.block.write.retries (defaults to 3). So in total it tries 4 times 
> to create the pipeline.
> So on the 3rd or 4th attempt, if we see all the excluded nodes in the 
> pipeline belongs to the same rack, we can pass the hint to namenode to 
> exclude that rack for the next block. 
> Once that rack is back online, Replication monitor will handle to replicate 
> that block to that rack.
>  



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