[ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-3092?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13245475#comment-13245475
 ] 

Flavio Junqueira commented on HDFS-3092:
----------------------------------------

Thanks for the responses, Suresh.

bq. For HDFS editlogs, my feeling is that there will only be three JDs. One on 
the active namenode, second on the standby and a third JD on one of the 
machines. In federation, one has to configure a JD per Federated namespace. 
Alternative is to use BookKeeper, since it could make the deployment simpler 
for federated large cluster.

When you say three JDs, that's the degree of replication, right? When I said 
multiple logs, I was referring to multiple namenodes writing to different logs, 
as with federation.

bq. I think the comment was more about comparing the design and complexity of 
deployment and not benchmarks for two systems. Performance is not the 
motivation for this jira.

Got it. You're thinking about a qualitative design based on the requirements 
identified. Correctness sounds like an obvious candidate. :-) 

bq. We decided on majority quorum to keep the design simple, though it is 
strictly not necessary. A JD in JournalList is supposed to have all the entries 
and any JD from the list can be used to read the journals.

I think my confusion here is that you require a quorum to be able to 
acknowledge the operation, but in reality you try to write to everyone. If you 
can't write to everyone, then you induce a view change (change to JournalList). 
Is this right?
                
> Enable journal protocol based editlog streaming for standby namenode
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HDFS-3092
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-3092
>             Project: Hadoop HDFS
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: ha, name-node
>    Affects Versions: 0.24.0, 0.23.3
>            Reporter: Suresh Srinivas
>            Assignee: Suresh Srinivas
>         Attachments: MultipleSharedJournals.pdf
>
>
> Currently standby namenode relies on reading shared editlogs to stay current 
> with the active namenode, for namespace changes. BackupNode used streaming 
> edits from active namenode for doing the same. This jira is to explore using 
> journal protocol based editlog streams for the standby namenode. A daemon in 
> standby will get the editlogs from the active and write it to local edits. To 
> begin with, the existing standby mechanism of reading from a file, will 
> continue to be used, instead of from shared edits, from the local edits.

--
This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa
For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira

        

Reply via email to