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Sanjay Radia commented on HDFS-3077:
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Wanted to get some clarification on what is persisted beyond the journals 
themselves. 
* In step 3b you state that recovery metadata is created and then deleted in 
step 4. Isn't the updated journal file sufficient? In paxos when phase 2 is 
completed, paxos protocol has essentially completed when quorum number of 
Journal have learned the new value. From what i understand, even in ZAB the 
journal is updated at that stage and no separate metadata is persisted.
*  The final step (finalize-segment or ZAB's commit) is really to lets all the 
JNs know that the new writer is the leader and that they can publish the data 
to other readers (the standBy in our case).
                
> Quorum-based protocol for reading and writing edit logs
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HDFS-3077
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-3077
>             Project: Hadoop HDFS
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: ha, name-node
>            Reporter: Todd Lipcon
>            Assignee: Todd Lipcon
>             Fix For: QuorumJournalManager (HDFS-3077)
>
>         Attachments: hdfs-3077-partial.txt, hdfs-3077-test-merge.txt, 
> hdfs-3077.txt, hdfs-3077.txt, hdfs-3077.txt, hdfs-3077.txt, hdfs-3077.txt, 
> hdfs-3077.txt, hdfs-3077.txt, qjournal-design.pdf, qjournal-design.pdf, 
> qjournal-design.pdf, qjournal-design.pdf, qjournal-design.pdf, 
> qjournal-design.pdf, qjournal-design.tex, qjournal-design.tex
>
>
> Currently, one of the weak points of the HA design is that it relies on 
> shared storage such as an NFS filer for the shared edit log. One alternative 
> that has been proposed is to depend on BookKeeper, a ZooKeeper subproject 
> which provides a highly available replicated edit log on commodity hardware. 
> This JIRA is to implement another alternative, based on a quorum commit 
> protocol, integrated more tightly in HDFS and with the requirements driven 
> only by HDFS's needs rather than more generic use cases. More details to 
> follow.

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