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Yi Liu commented on HDFS-7122:
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Agree with your point for reverting it, thanks [~szetszwo]. 

> Very poor distribution of replication copies
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>
>                 Key: HDFS-7122
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-7122
>             Project: Hadoop HDFS
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: namenode
>    Affects Versions: 2.3.0
>         Environment: medium-large environments with 100's to 1000's of DNs 
> will be most affected, but potentially all environments.
>            Reporter: Jeff Buell
>            Assignee: Andrew Wang
>            Priority: Blocker
>              Labels: performance
>
> Summary:
> Since HDFS-6268, the distribution of replica block copies across the 
> DataNodes (replicas 2,3,... as distinguished from the first "primary" 
> replica) is extremely poor, to the point that TeraGen slows down by as much 
> as 3X for certain configurations.  This is almost certainly due to the 
> introduction of Thread Local Random in HDFS-6268.  The mechanism appears to 
> be that this change causes all the random numbers in the threads to be 
> correlated, thus preventing a truly random choice of DN for each replica copy.
> Testing details:
> 1 TB TeraGen on 638 slave nodes (virtual machines on 32 physical hosts), 
> 256MB block size.  This results in 6 "primary" blocks on each DN.  With 
> replication=3, there will be on average 12 more copies on each DN that are 
> copies of blocks from other DNs.  Because of the random selection of DNs, 
> exactly 12 copies are not expected, but I found that about 160 DNs (1/4 of 
> all DNs!) received absolutely no copies, while one DN received over 100 
> copies, and the elapsed time increased by about 3X from a pre-HDFS-6268 
> distro.  There was no pattern to which DNs didn't receive copies, nor was the 
> set of such DNs repeatable run-to-run. In addition to the performance 
> problem, there could be capacity problems due to one or a few DNs running out 
> of space. Testing was done on CDH 5.0.0 (before) and CDH 5.1.2 (after), but I 
> don't see a significant difference from the Apache Hadoop source in this 
> regard. The workaround to recover the previous behavior is to set 
> dfs.namenode.handler.count=1 but of course this has scaling implications for 
> large clusters.
> I recommend that the ThreadLocal Random part of HDFS-6268 be reverted until a 
> better algorithm can be implemented and tested.  Testing should include a 
> case with many DNs and a small number of blocks on each.
> It should also be noted that even pre-HDFS-6268, the random choice of DN 
> algorithm produces a rather non-uniform distribution of copies.  This is not 
> due to any bug, but purely a case of random distributions being much less 
> uniform than one might intuitively expect. In the above case, pre-HDFS-6268 
> yields something like a range of 3 to 25 block copies on each DN. 
> Surprisingly, the performance penalty of this non-uniformity is not as big as 
> might be expected (maybe only 10-20%), but HDFS should do better, and in any 
> case the capacity issue remains.  Round-robin choice of DN?  Better awareness 
> of which DNs currently store fewer blocks? It's not sufficient that the total 
> number of blocks is similar on each DN at the end, but that at each point in 
> time no individual DN receives a disproportionate number of blocks at once 
> (which could be a danger of a RR algorithm).
> Probably should limit this jira to tracking the ThreadLocal issue, and track 
> the random choice issue in another one.



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