you are so nice,thank you very much:)
last question:
can i trigger block sync without restart hdfs?


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在 2011-9-8,15:00,Todd Lipcon <t...@cloudera.com> 写道:

> 2011/9/7 kang hua <kanghua...@msn.com>:
>> Thanks my friend!
>> please allow me to ask more question about detail thinks!
>> 1 yes, I can use hadoop fs -tail or -cat xxx to see that file content, But
>> how can I get that file real size in other process if namenode is not change
>> ?  I real want is to read the date in tail  of that file.
> 
> You can open the file and then use an API on the DFSInputStream class
> to find the length. I don't recall the name of the API, but if you
> look in there, you should see it.
> 
>> 
>> 2 why "when I reboot hdfs, I can see that file's content that I flushed
>> again by "hadoop fs -ls xxx" "
> 
> On restart, the namenode triggers block synchronization, and the
> up-to-date length is determined.
> 
>> 3 In append mode.  close file and open it with append mode again and again .
>> real dataspace is normally increase, but nodename  show dfs used space
>> increase to fast. it is a bug ?
> 
> Might be a bug, yes.
> 
>> 4 which version of hdfs that append is no bug ?
> 
> 0.21, which is buggy in other aspects. So, no stable released version
> has a working append() call.
> 
> In truth I've never seen a _good_ use case for
> append-to-an-existing-file. Usually you can do just as well by keeping
> the file open and periodically hflushing, or rolling to a new file
> when you want to add more records to an existing dataset.
> 
> -Todd
> 
>>> From: t...@cloudera.com
>>> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 14:17:10 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: Question about hdfs close * hflush behavior
>>> To: hdfs-user@hadoop.apache.orgSend
>>> 
>>> 2011/9/7 kang hua <kanghua...@msn.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi friends:
>>>> I has two question.
>>>> first one is:
>>>> I use libhdfs's hflush to flush my data to a file, in same process
>>>> context I can read it. But I find that file unchanged if I check from
>>>> hadoop
>>>> shell ---- it's len is zero( check by "hadoop fs -ls xxx" or read it in
>>>> program); however when I reboot hdfs, I can read that file's content
>>>> that I
>>>> flushed again。 why ?
>>> 
>>> If we were to update th e file metadata on hflush, it would be very
>>> expensive, since the metadata lives in the NameNode.
>>> 
>>> If you do hadoop fs -cat xxx, you should see the entirety of the flushed
>>> data.
>>> 
>>>> can I hflush data to file without close it,at same time read data
>>>> flushed
>>>> by other process ?
>>> 
>>> yes.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> second one is:
>>>> does once close hdfs file, the last written block is untouched. even
>>>> open
>>>> that file with append mode, namenode will alloc a new block to for
>>>> append
>>>> data?
>>> 
>>> No, it reopens the last block of the existing file for append.
>>> 
>>>> I find if I close file and open it with append mode again and again.
>>>> hdfs
>>>> report will show "used space much more that the file logic size"
>>> 
>>> Not sure I follow what you mean by this. Can you give more d etail?
>>> 
>>>> btw: I use cloudera ch2
>>> 
>>> The actual "append()" function has some bugs in all of the 0.20
>>> releases, including Cloudera's. The hflush/sync() API is fine to use,
>>> but I would recommend against using append().
>>> 
>>> -Todd
>>> --
>>> Todd Lipcon
>>> Software Engineer, Cloudera
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Todd Lipcon
> Software Engineer, Cloudera
> 

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