Hi guys,
do you plan to support the LTS of Ubuntu I think that would be usefull for
your tool too, 'cause not everybody is using the newest OSes...
I think it shouldn't be a problem unless you use very new libraries

greets

Joao

2011/5/14 Jack de Valpine <[email protected]>

>  Hi Greg,
>
> I can build you an Ubuntu 10.10 or newer vm for vmware if you would like.
>
> Just because it is Linux does not mean that you have to distribute in
> source form. I have never really spent time figuring out how the packaging
> systems work for building and distributing. There must be some tools for
> this though.
>
> Best,
>
> -Jack
>
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> On 5/13/2011 12:53 PM, Thomas Bleicher wrote:
>
> Hi Greg.
>
>  I don't have much experience with Linux in a VM (only using Windows) but
> I expect that both provide similar features.
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Gregory J. Ward 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> I was thinking I could install a "virtual appliance" for one of the
>> available Linux systems under VMWare Fusion:
>>
>>
>> http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/cat/5793?k=&sort=created
>
>
>  From this list I would think that either "Ubuntu 10.10" or "Fedora 14
> desktop image" would be a good choice. Ubuntu 11.04 is now out but it ships
> with a new default desktop which may be confusing (although it's closer to a
> Mac if you like your dock on the left side of the screen). In the end it
> shouldn't matter because you will have to satisfy a large variety of
> distributions/desktops/versions which are in use today.
>
>
>> This should permit me to do the development work on my Mac, avoiding the
>> need for another computer or dual-boot system, but I'm open to alternative
>> suggestions.
>
>
>  I assume you can "export" a directory to the guest OS in a Linux VM as
> you can on Windows. This allows you to edit your files on the Mac and only
> go to Linux when you have to compile. I have a similar setup with
> Mac/Windows but it's mostly because a VM on my laptop is noticeably slow and
> it's not nice to work in it. Of course you can also use scp,rsync or a
> source control system to sync between two directories.
>
>
>> If I did get one of these VA's, which one would be most useful to the
>> community?
>
>
>  If you want to provide an easy to install binary packages for your app
> you will have to install both VMs because they represent different package
> managers (RPM based vs. DEB based). I think there is a tool to convert an
> *.rpm to a *.deb package but I'm not sure about that. Bernd can give you all
> the information you need on *.deb.
>
>  If you expect your users to be fairly familiar with their system you can
> also just provide *.tgz archives. Matured Linux users will know what to do
> with it.
>
>
>> Would I have to distribute Photosphere in source form with a build system
>> to reach a reasonable number of Linux users?
>
>
>  These days I expect that most Linux users rely on their package manager
> to get software installed. If you want to get included in major
> distributions like Debian you will have to provide source code, too.
> However, I don't think it's a problem for anyone to download a *.deb or
> *.rpm file and double-click to install.
>
>
>> I ask because I still have some hopes of recovering some of my development
>> and documentation costs for Photosphere, which has been in the works for
>> nearly a decade.  (For those of you who don't know, I have been distributing
>> the Mac version for free from www.anyhere.com, but since it is also based
>> on Carbon, I can't go any further with it.)
>>
>
>  I am a bit out of touch with Linux libraries these days but I remember
> that is used to be hell to get the right version for a particular software.
> Further GTK (which is used by wxWindows on Linux) is about to release a new
> major version which might mess up the GTK based desktops for a while.
>
>  I think if you build static binaries you shouldn't be too bothered by all
> of this. But then I don't really understand all the details.
>
>  Regards,
> Thomas
>
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