* Emilien Klein: " [Health-dev] Should distribution packaging solve the installation/configuration issues our users are having? (was: Error connection client and server tryton, gnuhealth 2.8.1 ubuntu 14.04.1)" (Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:43:01 +0100):
Hi Emilien, > When I read a number of recent messages of the type "can't install", > "can't connect", etc. I do feel that there is a need for a package > coming from the distro's repository, that would auto-configure all > that stuff. It would make a lot of "beginner" users happy. > Of course, us veteran developers and system administrators have no > problem setting all these things up, and doing the occasional > debugging/reading through logfiles to see where it went wrong, but a > lot of our users are naturally not that tech-savvy. > > This in reference to the discussion we had a couple of months ago, > when I was working on the Debian package (which we removed from the > repository, but the discussion was recently restarted due to the > latest version of GNU Health being released). > If you're interested, have a look at the use cases and personas I had > described in this message [0]. Be warned, it is a long message ;) > [0] https://lists.debian.org/debian-med/2013/09/msg00077.html So also the reply is worth reading;) and applies today as well: https://lists.debian.org/debian-med/2013/09/msg00079.html IMO you try/tried to solve problems with a faulty concept. Apart from conceptional misunderstangs with respect to database layout and security questions the nature of a demo instance is basically different from a production server. Moreover you shouldn't want to upgrade forcefully a production instance of gnuhealth to the next/last version as soon as available. OTOH you should provide the bug fix releases of upstream in a timely manner for the relative supported series. That's what we have made possible and what we are doing on debian.tryton.org. > There is no particular need for an answer on this message, but I just > wanted to express my opinion as I've been having this thought a couple > of times already this week, when reading the messages on the mailing > list... To the (highjacked;) subject of this mail: I don't think, that distributions should/can solve all use cases of an application like Tryton/gnuhealth. Especially the setup of ready-to-use preconfigured environments is much easier to solve with Virtual Machines, Docker files, Vagrant files, etc.. There is the gnuhealth VM made by Axel available, there could be done a more lightweight solution if someone wants to. But please do not confound the setup of such an environment with a production environment of a hospital or a doctor's surgery. There is still only one thing applicable for the responsible administrator: RTFM. Cheers, Mathias -- Mathias Behrle MBSolutions Gilgenmatten 10 A D-79114 Freiburg Tel: +49(761)471023 Fax: +49(761)4770816 http://www.m9s.biz UStIdNr: DE 142009020 PGP/GnuPG key availabable from any keyserver, ID: 0x8405BBF6
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