Nokhhim is just like kotvim, as far as I know. Qal active participle, no gutturals in significant positions to affect the vocalization. I'd refer to Alkalay et al only in cases of serious doubt.
Joan Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 18, 2017, at 8:28 AM, Robert M. TALBOTT > <rtalb...@library.berkeley.edu> wrote: > > I'm not sure I understand. From what I've gleaned from Maher, when a sheva > falls under a consonant that follows a vowel, it's understood as a sheva nah > as far as our romanization scheme goes, thus "nokhhim." > > > >> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Heidi G Lerner <ler...@stanford.edu> wrote: >> We have historically provided a simple rule for romanizing Hebrew because we >> cannot assume that all Hebraica catalogers who are required to romanize have >> a strong background in דקדוק. >> >> >> And that rule, encoded in two editions of Hebraica cataloging is to follow >> the vocalization in the most recent edition of Even-Shoshan and Alkalay. >> Both of these dictionaries have a "sheva" under the "כ". Thus we do as Yossi >> says we do. >> >> >> "nokheḥut". >> >> >> Thanks, Heidi >> >> >> Heidi G. Lerner >> >> Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica >> >> Metadata Dept. >> >> Stanford University Libraries >> >> Stanford, CA 94305-6004 >> >> ph: 650-725-9953 >> >> fax: 650-725-1120 >> >> e-mail: ler...@stanford.edu >> >> >> >> >> From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces+lerner=stanford....@lists.osu.edu> on >> behalf of Joan Biella <jbiella2...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:31 PM >> To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel >> Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Nokhehim? Nokhhim? >> >> Yossi knows us well. I don't think you'll find a rule in the HCM even now >> that would justify an /e/ between the khaf and the het, no matter how they >> have to be pronounced. >> >> Joan >> >>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Yossi Galron <jgal...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Bob, >>> Hebrew is a living language. I don't know the grammatical rule (Sheva na? >>> Sheva merahef?), but modern Hebrew speakers are saying Nokhehim. Try to >>> pronounce two Khaf or Het sounds without a vowel between them. >>> I know my answer will not satisfy you. Maybe someone on the list will be >>> more satisfying. >>> Happy Passover/Easter >>> Yossi >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 17, 2017 21:10, "Robert M. TALBOTT" <rtalb...@library.berkeley.edu> >>>> wrote: >>>> Why? >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Yossi Galron <jgal...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Nohekhim. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 17, 2017 18:22, "Robert M. TALBOTT" >>>>>> <rtalb...@library.berkeley.edu> wrote: >>>>>> Folks: >>>>>> >>>>>> Does נוכחים follow the pattern of lomdim (nokh[dot]him) or the pattern >>>>>> of mitpalelim (mokhe[dot]him)? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> B >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Bob Talbott >>>>>> >>>>>> Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger >>>>>> >>>>>> UC Berkeley >>>>>> >>>>>> 250 Moffitt >>>>>> >>>>>> Berkeley, CA 94720 >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm just mad about Saffron >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Heb-naco mailing list >>>>>> Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu >>>>>> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bob Talbott >>>> >>>> Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger >>>> >>>> UC Berkeley >>>> >>>> 250 Moffitt >>>> >>>> Berkeley, CA 94720 >>>> >>>> I'm just mad about Saffron >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Heb-naco mailing list >>>> Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu >>>> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Heb-naco mailing list >>> Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu >>> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Heb-naco mailing list >> Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu >> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco > > > > -- > Bob Talbott > > Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger > > UC Berkeley > > 250 Moffitt > > Berkeley, CA 94720 > > I'm just mad about Saffron > _______________________________________________ > Heb-naco mailing list > Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco
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