Bedi’avad has no reference to another entry. There is no such a word in ES as 
Di’avad.

There is also no reference in Bahem (or Bahen)

With Bilvad – There is a reference to Levad – so I would not change it to 
Bilvad, but leave it as Bi-levad.

The same is with Ka’et – there is a reference to ‘Et

There is no reference in Kefi (and also Lefi), Levad,

There is no reference to Ma’an in Lema’an

But there are references to Min from Mi-meni, Mi-menah, Mi-meno and so on. 
(those I would continue to hyphen)

Seli, shelkha, shelak and so on, do not have prefixes.


I am heading home ☺

Yossi

––
Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger
Head, Hebraica & Jewish Studies 
Library<http://guides.osu.edu/c.php?g=337806&p=2274681>
and German Language and Literature Librarian
305 G Thompson Memorial Library
The Ohio State University Libraries
1858 Neil Ave. Mall
Columbus, Ohio 43210 USA
Tel.: (614) 292-3362, Fax: (614)292-1918
Mobile: (614) 285-4290
E-Mail: galro...@osu.edu or jgal...@gmail.com

Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature:
http://go.osu.edu/hebrewlit

Union List of Digitized Jewish Historic Newspapers and Periodicals
http://go.osu.edu/jpress





From: Shinohara, Jasmin <jsh...@pobox.upenn.edu>
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 2:01 PM
To: Galron, Joseph <galro...@osu.edu>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel 
<heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>
Subject: RE: בגלל

I hear the concern, Yossi, but I’m afraid we’ve already started down the 
proverbial slope. Per the 
FAQ<http://rascat.pbworks.com/w/page/109347700/Romanization%20FAQ>, we’ve 
agreed to romanize the words as

Bediʻavad
Bahem
Bilvad
Kaʻet
Kefi
Levad
Lemaʻan
Lefi
Mimeni
Sheli

No one can argue for Shvil since the sheva na’ at the beginning of a word 
requires it to be Shevil. No one can argue for Birushalayim because there is no 
E-Sh. entry for the compound.

So do I hear consensus on Biglal (and Bishvil – when it means “because/on 
behalf of”; otherwise bi/ba-shevil when it means “on a/the path)?

From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Galron, 
Joseph via Heb-naco
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 12:52 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] בגלל

It is “dangerous” going to Biglal or Bishvil – tomorrow we will say: If it is 
Bishvil so why not change it to Shvil
We also Romanize בירושלים  to “Bi-Yerushalayim” and not to “Birushalayim”

Yossi



From: Heb-naco 
<heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu>> On 
Behalf Of Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 12:31 PM
To: Gottschalk, Haim <h...@loc.gov<mailto:h...@loc.gov>>; 'Hebrew Name 
Authority Funnel' <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] בגלל

Hi, Haim, bi-gelal would be correct if the ב is considered a prefix to the word 
גלל. But since there is a direct entry for the word as a whole, I’m asking if 
we should romanize it as a whole word instead of as a compound word.

Thanks, Jasmin

From: Gottschalk, Haim [mailto:h...@loc.gov]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 12:24 PM
To: Shinohara, Jasmin; 'Hebrew Name Authority Funnel'
Subject: RE: בגלל

I think it should be “biglal” and not “bi-gelal” because of the sheva being 
treat as a sheva nach (which is how it is in the Alcalay).  This is in my 
humble opinion.

~Haim

From: Heb-naco 
<heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu>> On 
Behalf Of Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 11:00 AM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel 
<heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: [Heb-NACO] בגלל

Hello Collective Wisdom, please remind me: if there’s an entry in E-Sh., even 
if it ends with a “see also”, is that sufficient justification for romanizing 
the word as a word as opposed to a compound? E.g. בגלל has a direct entry, so 
I’d think it would be romanized biglal (NOT bigelal because as a whole word, 
the sheva would be considered merahef, ignored in romanization), but the entry 
also says “see גלל”. So which is it: Biglal or Bi-gelal?

Thanks, Jasmin


---
Jasmin Shinohara
Hebraica Cataloging Librarian
University of Pennsylvania
Van Pelt-Dietrich Library Center
3420 Walnut Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6206
T. 215-746-6397
jsh...@upenn.edu<mailto:jsh...@upenn.edu>

_______________________________________________
Heb-naco mailing list
Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu
https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco

Reply via email to