I don't think Aaron's problem (or mine) is with the whole romanization system, but rather with solutions that are counter-intuitive. We have to acknowledge that it is unlikely that any non-catalogers will randomly use that spelling to search the database. Rules can be super-coherent within a system, but that doesn't mean they are useful to the final user.
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 4:05 PM Joan Biella via Heb-naco < heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Seems everyone has his/her own idea of the “problem” with this name (or in > Aaron’s case, with the whole romanization system). As you all know, I have > my own habit of slavishly following the “rules” as far as possible, in the > hope that if everyone else does the same, we’ll all get the same results. > My problem with the name “Juliet” is that there are at least two acceptable > English pronunciations of it, JU-lee-et and JUL-yet. The second sounds > “British” to me. The Hebrew characters can support either. Choose one and > make a reference with the other. > > Joan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 13, 2019, at 5:38 AM, Kuperman, Aaron via Heb-naco < > heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > It is interesting that it appears that Hebrew-speakers with that name tend > to Romanize it, and apparently pronounce it, as it is pronounced in western > language, meaning the first letter is a “J”. We really should be asking > what value it is to have a rule that requires making a Romanization that is > unintelligible to (non-cataloger) users of our metadata. Hebrew is a living > language, and we have rules for dealing with foreign (non-Hebrew) names > more appropriate for Latin or Sumerian. > > > > Aaron Kuperman, LC Law Cataloging Section. > > This is *not* an official communication from my employer > > > > > > *From:* Heb-naco <heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu> *On Behalf Of *Yossi > Galron via Heb-naco > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 12, 2019 8:18 PM > *To:* Gottschalk, Haim <h...@loc.gov>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel < > heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] How would your Romanize the following word > > > > The problem is that there are two ways to write this name: > > ז'ולייט > > ג'ולייט > > Both forms are Kosher. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 20:12 Gottschalk, Haim via Heb-naco < > heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > > > How would you Romanize the name - ז'ולייט? Would you a. Z’uliyeṭ or b. > Z’uleṭ or c. ? > > > > Thanks, > > Haim > > > > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > *Haim A. Gottschalk* > > *Librarian* > > Israel and Judaica Section, Asian and Middle Eastern Division > > 101 Independence Ave, SE > > Washington, DC 20540-4222 > > Direct: 202-707-2498 > > h...@loc.gov > > > > *[image: cid:image001.jpg@01D4F503.AB53F460]* > > > > *THIS EMAIL IS NOT CLASSIFIED.* > > *Ideas & opinions in this email are not intended to represent those of the > Library of Congress or its staff.* > > > > ***Please remember the environment and only print this if necessary*** > > > > The Library of Congress’ mission is to engage, inspire, and inform > Congress and the American people with a universal and enduring source of > knowledge and creativity. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Heb-naco mailing list > Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco > > _______________________________________________ > Heb-naco mailing list > Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco > > _______________________________________________ > Heb-naco mailing list > Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco > -- *Neil M. Frau-Cortes, Ph.D. *(he, him, his) Judaica, Hebraica and Metadata Cataloger University of Maryland 4109 McKeldin Library College Park, MD 20742 Phone (301) 405-9337 nf...@umd.edu ORCID ID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1881-1405
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