Hi Meh, The problem that I see with the underline indication, if I understand you correctly, is that the user does not see the actual character that is causing the underline. Now if you want to show *both* the LRM *and* underline the affected text *in the same color*, that's fine by me. Regards,
- yba On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, Meh Lounge wrote: > I suggest that we will not tick the RLM itself but > instead, like in abiword, we will underline/tick the > text the RLM renders R2L. > --- Jonathan Ben Avraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Frank, et al. > > I think that we have discussed this issue fairly > > thoroughly and > > understood the various directional control > > characters and their effects, > > and the IME issues. I think that there is also > > general agreement now (you, > > Waleed, Alan and myself at least) that we can > > proceed with the solution > > proposed in IZ 18024, without changing any OOo file > > format. All that is > > needed is a way to display the RLM (but not a tofu > > labeled with a hex > > code, please). > > > > If anyone has any stong objections (Ilya?) please > > post them now. > > Regards, > > > > - yba > > > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, Frank Meies wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On 13.10.2004 20:18, meh wrote: > > > > > > > I actually find myself quit agreeing with you in > > here, even though I am > > > > the original proposer of the idea. There isn't > > much difference which > > > > exact sign will we implement the "f(x)" > > sollution with, and Alan's > > > > sollutions seems to fit the standard. > > > > Why should it matter (implementation wise, and > > tachles, for the user > > > > experience) whether we put an RLE or an LRM? > > > > > > from the implementation point of view, it does > > matter, whether we use an > > > RLE or an LRM character. The LRM character could > > be automatically > > > inserted after typing the closing bracket, just as > > you described in > > > issue 18024. But where should an LRE character be > > inserted > > > automatically? The 'correct' position would be in > > front of the 'f', > > > since f(x) is the LTR embedded text portion. So > > this would be after the > > > last strong RTL character? No, automatic insertion > > of LRE/RLE/PDF > > > characters does not work without any additional > > information, where to > > > start and end the embedding. This again leads us > > to the IME/character > > > attribute solution. The IME gives the hint, where > > to start/end the > > > embedding, and internally using a > > direction/embedding character > > > attribute is totally equivalent to using > > LRE/RLE/PDF characters. So > > > actually Alan's solution is quite close to the > > IME/character attribute > > > option. > > > Beside this, the usage of LRE/RLE/PDF characters > > is 'considered not > > > suitable for use with markup in XML or HTML', see > > > > > > http://www.unicode.org/unicode/reports/tr20/#Charlist > > > whereas the usage of RLM/LRM is suitable. That > > means, we should replace > > > these characters on xml/html export with the > > appropriate embedding > > > attributes. So we should prefer the > > embedding/direction attributes over > > > the embedding control characters, if want to have > > a solution based on > > > embedding markup. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > -- > > EE 77 7F 30 4A 64 2E C5 83 5F E7 49 A6 82 29 BA > > ~. .~ Tk Open Systems > > > =}------------------------------------------------ooO--U--Ooo------------{= > > - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - tel: +972.2.679.5364, > > http://www.tkos.co.il - > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > -- EE 77 7F 30 4A 64 2E C5 83 5F E7 49 A6 82 29 BA ~. .~ Tk Open Systems =}------------------------------------------------ooO--U--Ooo------------{= - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il - ============================================================== To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe hebrew" in the message body.
