I have no particular opinion on this. If you think it is wrong, at a feature request/bug report in bug.cfengine.com
On 09/17/2010 11:33 AM, Tim Cutts wrote: > > On 17 Sep 2010, at 10:15 am, Mark Burgess wrote: > >> David, the problem is one of semantics. In bulk operations, some things >> succeed and some >> fail. You are entirely slave to the behaviour of the package manager, making >> it difficult >> to have a consistent behaviour that everyone can agree on. Installing one by >> one is >> inefficient, but possible. >> >> Try to think more about the final (desired) state rather than the outcome of >> the shell >> command. > > To some extent I agree with Davide that cfengine is deliberately discarding > useful information here, and that can't be a good thing, surely? > Particularly if it then goes on to behave as though the promise was fulfilled > (although I do understand that the promise was fulfilled in the sense of "I > passed the message on"). > > It seems it's a case of understanding what a package installation promise is > actually promising. Davide is reading it as "I promise to install this > package" whereas cfengine is making a slightly lesser promise, which is "I > promise to ask the local package manager to install this package". > > I expect it will be a common misunderstanding - most system administrators > would probably instinctively interpret it the way Davide has, although your > documentation as quoted by Davide can be interpreted either way. "cfengine > promises nothing about the outcome of executing a command" is fairly clear. > The issue is with the phrase "using the results in good faith"; in my view > the exit status of a command is just as valid a result of that command as the > standard output. Ignoring the exit status to my mind means cfengine is not > "using the results", it's ignoring some of them. > > Just my view - I expect Mark disagrees. :-) > > Tim > _______________________________________________ Help-cfengine mailing list Help-cfengine@cfengine.org https://cfengine.org/mailman/listinfo/help-cfengine
