Hi Andrei,

  my grub is finally working :-)

  I contacted asus tech support. My problem was fixed by reset of cmos
memory via hardware jumpers on motherboard. Although update of bios and
load of defaults that I did before seems to have same effect the result was
different.

Best regards,
Jan

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Jan Gregor <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:42 PM Andrei Borzenkov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Jan Gregor <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Yes, it didn't worked in slax livecd until linux kernel was started. I
>> also
>> > experienced same in debian installer until I disabled csm in bios that
>> turns
>> > on uefi mode.
>> >
>> > I'm aware of legacy usb support in bios and it is enabled.
>> >
>>
>> And what about other settings there? Did you try all combinations?
>>
>
> Yes, I hope so. There were three options for usb like ehci support and in
> another part of bios setup CSM options.
>
>
>>
>> > The problem can be that microsoft natural keyboard is visible as two
>> usb hid
>> > devices and the bios has somehow broken support for non-uefi case via
>> bios
>> > services.
>> >
>> > Well, I didn't expect that native usb drivers makes booting of windows
>> > impossible.
>> >
>>
>> Well ... driver changes hardware state without BIOS being aware of it
>> so we try to play safe. If it possible to allow concurrent BIOS and
>> GRUB access, someone with better USB knowledge please chime in.
>>
>
> I understand.
>
>
>>
>> > Thanks,
>> > Jan
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:24 AM Andrei Borzenkov <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Jan Gregor <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> >   my keyboard (microsoft natural 4000) doesn't work in boot managers
>> >>
>> >> Do you mean it also does not work in other boot managers, not only
>> GRUB?
>> >>
>> >> > although it is functional in bios, windows, linux and uefi mode.
>> >> > Unfortunatelly my disk works in mbr mode so uefi is not option for
>> me.
>> >> > The
>> >> > keyboard worked ok with old computer so I think the problem relates
>> to
>> >> > my
>> >> > current motherboard (asus p9dws).
>> >> >
>> >> >  I use grub2 from fresh debian installation (jessie), version
>> >> > 2.02~beta2-22+deb8u1.
>> >> >
>> >> >  Without modifications, grub2 boots without problems debian and
>> windows
>> >> > 10.
>> >> > Unfortunately due to unfuctional keyboard I have to externally change
>> >> > default option.
>> >> >
>> >> >  When I added following lines to start of grub.cfg, my keyboard
>> works.
>> >> >     nativedisk
>> >> >     insmod usb
>> >> >     insmod usb_keyboard
>> >> >     insmod ehci
>> >> >
>> >> >  Unfortunatelly boot of windows 10 ends with following error message
>> >> >
>> >> >    A disk read error occured. Press Ctrl + Alt + Del
>> >> >
>> >> > I think the error can relate to usb support that forces grub to use
>> >> > nativedisk module. Can you recommend how to solve booting of windows
>> 10
>> >> > in
>> >> > this case ?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> No, you cannot chainload Windows once you tainted system with native
>> >> USB drivers. But the real question is why keyboard does not work. GRUB
>> >> is using BIOS services to perform input/output and you say it works in
>> >> BIOS setup, correct? It sounds like BIOS stops USB support when it
>> >> boots something. Try playing with BIOS setup options, in particular
>> >> "Legacy USB Support"; according to documentation if it is disabled,
>> >> then "USB devices can be used only for the BIOS setup program".
>>
>
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