Hi Simon and Maxim! I am not sure I understand all things you wrote.
On 29.06.20 10:50, zimoun wrote: > Dear, > > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 21:25, Zelphir Kaltstahl <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> * It requires keeping multiple Emacs on my system. How will they >> interact with the same ~/.emacs.d/.init.el? > Emacs reads init.el when it starts so yes all Emacs will interact with > this file if you do not specify explicitly to not do it. Well, if you > use 'with-eval-after-load' in your Emacs configuration files, it should > not be a problem. Otherwise give a look at "emacs-guix" or try "emacs -q > -l /path/to/your/specific/config.el", as Maxim pointed. OK, so basically the way would then be to have 2 Emacs, but always start one of them with with the `-l <path>` argument, so that it makes use of another config file. >> How did you package emacs-ob-erlang? (I did not yet package a single >> package for Guix, so I assume no prior knowledge.) Or is it a rather >> lengthy procedure to do so? I think this might be one of the next things >> I learn about Guix, which is very useful, because if a package is >> missing, one can add it oneself, without having to rely on others to add it. > For this specific package, I do not know because I have not checked but > the first step when a package is not in Guix is: try the importer! :-) > > guix import elpa -a melpa -r foo > > where foo is the name of package in MELPA. This works very well. OK nice! I'll try it for a package! I noticed, that there are only 3 Emacs Org-Babel packages available (or visible) at: https://guix.gnu.org/packages/E/page/9/. I'l try with some of those I need. And I see at https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Invoking-guix-import.html#Invoking-guix-import, that there are already some repositories understood, which I would probably use. Also the edit thing `guix edit emacs-ob-erlang` sounds interesting. I just did the edit thing and I am not sure how to then "upload" a package. But I will read the docs a little and will probably all clear up. >> I usually install Emacs packages inside Emacs, instead of using Guix for >> it. I do this, because probably not all packages I want are available in >> Guix, but I have not checked this assumption at all. > I did that (installing with 'use-package') too but then I switched all > to manifest.scm file and 'with-eval-after-load' tracking channels.scm > (guix describe -f channels). This way, I have a working setup > everywhere and everytime. Anyway! :-) > > The point is that Guix has a really large collection of Emacs packages: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > $ du -sh gnu/packages/*.scm | sort -nr | head -n5 > 908K gnu/packages/crates-io.scm > 884K gnu/packages/emacs-xyz.scm > 784K gnu/packages/cran.scm > 732K gnu/packages/python-xyz.scm > 636K gnu/packages/bioinformatics.scm > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > and if your needs is not there then "guix import elpa" eases the task > for adding it. :-) So if I understand this correctly, there are different channels for different types of packages, for example for Rust packages we have `gnu/packages/crates-io.scm` and for Emacs packages we have `gnu/packages/emacs-xyz.scm`. The command `guix describe -f channels` does not work for me: ~~~~ xiaolong@xlx200:~$ guix describe -f channels guix describe: error: failed to determine origin hint: Perhaps this `guix' command was not obtained with `guix pull'? Its version string is 36da62f1b9c78a2729658143a7df1845cd532afa. ~~~~ I did another `guix pull` and `guix package -u` and this is after a fresh Guix package manager install and and installing the following packages: ~~~~ xiaolong@xlx200:~$ sudo -i guix package -I glibc-utf8-locales 2.31 out /gnu/store/z7a6sbvqzb5zapwpznmjkq2rsxil6i67-glibc-utf8-locales-2.31 xiaolong@xlx200:~$ sudo -i guix package -I glibc-utf8-locales 2.31 out /gnu/store/z7a6sbvqzb5zapwpznmjkq2rsxil6i67-glibc-utf8-locales-2.31 xiaolong@xlx200:~$ guix package -I guile 3.0.4 out /gnu/store/ah16zr8mmfkqy23rr7jy5a842ca1q9h1-guile-3.0.4 erlang 21.3.8.13 out /gnu/store/6x8ycgi8hv5rh8gq3vrdbcq5sh3qfq7i-erlang-21.3.8.13 emacs-ob-erlang 20180827-1.f1a8c66 out /gnu/store/czg6wqga0hvc57axbz1cjp892k5r8ybp-emacs-ob-erlang-20180827-1.f1a8c66 icecat 68.9.0-guix0-preview1 out /gnu/store/7qakza7zdiz57l5hldd8162324fwbw8s-icecat-68.9.0-guix0-preview1 libreoffice 6.4.4.2 out /gnu/store/swk410ahw9v4k0hjmsd4f33bqw5fdyqa-libreoffice-6.4.4.2 lyx 2.3.5.1 out /gnu/store/p7z5436jhgjlgdbx44np44vzjhrwi2ns-lyx-2.3.5.1 python 3.8.2 out /gnu/store/6sr11m4i1d3vbqlmbpzmfj1lihbc5iz4-python-3.8.2 rust 1.39.0 out /gnu/store/24pbvvdwaj9kbsdfi6kgxkvxkjayfz74-rust-1.39.0 openvpn 2.4.9 out /gnu/store/3rh4i3wbkdwkrmrxy30d3f3nbg6kdl02-openvpn-2.4.9 emacs 26.3 out /gnu/store/528p0v6gg5gx53jd0x52dmghb01bfhc5-emacs-26.3 glibc-utf8-locales 2.31 out /gnu/store/z7a6sbvqzb5zapwpznmjkq2rsxil6i67-glibc-utf8-locales-2.31 guile-colorized 0.1 out /gnu/store/5h0jfssgyx49cq82wrmw57an7ngb7kkz-guile-colorized-0.1 ~~~~ The other command to show the count of packages also does not work for me: ~~~~ xiaolong@xlx200:/$ sudo du -sh gnu/packages/*.scm | sort -nr | head -n5 du: cannot access 'gnu/packages/*.scm': No such file or directory ~~~~ Do I need to create channels, like a custom way of structuring packages for myself, before running these commands? > All the best, > simon Thanks for all your help! Best regards, Zelphir -- repositories: https://notabug.org/ZelphirKaltstahl
