I totally agree - while diverging a little from my original bluetooth question, it seems that we need to have an "unofficial" "Guix-Compromised" downstream distribution.
The frustrating thing is that with the zero-tolerance attitude of Guix project (while well-meaning and I applaud such high standards), it is difficult to even discuss such things as tactical abandonment of libre-software purity in order dramatically improve the actual end-user experience. We only effectively discuss delivering the best possible user-experience (while ignoring the ethical questions) when we can employ all possible means including using bad software form companies we dislike. Having said that, I think the Guix' stance is actually very defendable and we would be barking up the wrong tree to complain to the Guix team. This is why I think we need a proper downstream distribution of Guix with the goal of delivering the best Linux experience albeit with perhaps degraded software purity. 😅 -Yasu > On Sep 26, 2020, at 21:03, Ekaitz Zarraga <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm a full-time Guix user but I don't really think I have average > requirements for my computing. > > I tried to connect to a bluetooth speaker once, there's a thread in the > mailing lists about it... I didn't manage to do it. > > I tried through Gnome first, and it literally doesn't show any Bluetooth > device. I was able to use some bluetooth controllers like Bluez or so and I > managed to pair the device (and Gnome still didn't recognize the bluetooth > but did recognize the pairing, amazing stuff), but I didn't manage to make > the music sound through it. > > I'd like to help more but this is what I got. > > This is the kind of things that are discouraging. Guix is a good thing but > the user experience is sometimes plainly horrible, for stuff that should be > simple. > >> I am curious how many people actually use Guix for the user-facing computers >> - do people use Ubuntu something and use Guix as a mere package manager or >> install Guix on a headless (virtual) computer and remotely use it? > > I am curious too, because I only use Guix for the only computer I own, but > I'm not sure if it could be reasonable for anyone else, mostly because > sometimes Guix users are supposed to know too much about internal software > layers and there's no help about those times where you don't know enough. > > This bluetooth case is very accurate case to explain this kind of situation. > Sound has a very weird software stack, if you combine it with bluetooth > everything gets complicated. If you don't know about it you are in trouble. > > Sorry for the depressing thoughts, but this is how I feel. > > I hope you find your way to make it work and share it. > > Best, > Ekaitz > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ >> On Friday, September 25, 2020 4:16 PM, Yasuaki Kudo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Joshua, >> >> My bluetooth USB device itself seems to be recognized by the kernel but >> there is this whole layers of software I don't understand - (when I used to >> use NixOS on the same hardware, it worked - I think it was a combination of >> something called PulseAudi and Bluetooth) >> >> So I just want to know whether someone actually has a working configuration >> I can just copy. >> >> I am curious how many people actually use Guix for the user-facing computers >> - do people use Ubuntu something and use Guix as a mere package manager or >> install Guix on a headless (virtual) computer and remotely use it? >> >> Cheers, >> Yasu >> >>>> On Sep 25, 2020, at 21:53, Joshua Branson [email protected] wrote: >>> Have you tried looking at h-node.org? >>> That will give you some hints at what hardware works well with >>> GNU/Linux. >>> I personally have a RIG headset with integrated microphone. It was a >>> bit of an impulse buy. It doesn't use bluetooth. It has one chord. I >>> can use it to record my voice, or listen to music. But I can't seem to >>> do both at the same time with it. :( >>> Thanks, >>> Joshua >>> -- >>> Joshua Branson >>> Sent from Emacs and Gnus >>> https://gnucode.me > >
