Let's do this! My partners and I are fired up about the idea and we would like this to be developed, along the way we continue to serve customers (or co-creators, in our worker coop worldđ).
Realistic, step by step implementation, niche to niche, until we make it big! đ -Yasu > On Aug 10, 2022, at 05:37, Ludovic Courtès <[email protected]> wrote: > > ďťżHi Phil, > > Phil <[email protected]> skribis: > >> My own experience is that whilst it doesn't require a PhD to setup Guix >> for the enterprise, it is a non-trivial journey, and it does require >> a fair amount of time and effort to create something that regular >> developers/scientists (i.e. non-Guix converts who just want to get on with >> their >> day-jobs) accept is as good or better than regular tooling they are used >> to. There's certainly a barrier to entry for people who don't want to >> do a deep-dive and just want tooling to support them in their professional >> role, without them having to think about it too much. >> >> Upselling the real benefits of Guix like rollbacks, profiles, perfectly >> reproducable builds, swapping one dependency for another - even in a >> scientific/tech-savvy company with lots of PhDs took a bit of persuading >> from me. Even now I think our company is only using perhaps 30% of the >> true power of Guix. Making all that power accessible to people who just >> want to get on with their jobs in an easy, intuitive way is a challenge >> I'm continuously trying to address. I also hope things like PantherX >> might help bridge the gap in the near future! > > From your experience, would you say that persuading was hard primarily > because Guix was unknown (to them), or because getting started is > difficult? > > Personally I think we need to make Guix approachable to a wide audience, > meaning not just developersâthat goes beyond your target audience, letâs > be ambitious! Iâd like to think that âguix installâ, âguix shellâ, and > the likes have a rather low barrier to entry to someone whoâs use the > command line before, but Iâve also seen newcomers confused because > âenvironment variables are hardâ and get in the way. > > Are there any takeaways from your experience in terms of UX/UI > improvements we could work on? > > Thanks, > Ludoâ.
