unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Grant Bowman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:29 PM To: Debian Hurd Mailing List; help-hurd Mailing List Subject: Re: How best to contribute to the Hurd?
Hi Clemmitt, I suspect there are other people just like you wondering the same thing. * Clemmitt Sigler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021010 15:01]: > I've recently been doing more with the Hurd, and I'm wondering how > I can best contribute to the effort. I have very little kernel/driver > hacking experience, I'm afraid. However, I don't mind writing > documentation, and (as you can tell :^) I've been building some > packages recently that I'm interested in. > > Is this a good way to help out? There's no centralized person or document to answer this. > If so, what docs need to be worked > on most (out-of-date or incomplete)? And what packages would it be > productive to fix up so they build? There are plenty of things to work on and the status changes. > I'm probably not the best person > do to a large porting effort or to fix really low-level problems, but > I'm glad to help if I can. I suppose I'm asking if there's a central > docs coordinator or working list, and a list of most-requested packages. There are several. I created the http://hurd.gnufans.org wiki to try to be a place where people can collaborate on just such items. Anyone can help to create this site for their own and other people's benefit. Recent packages that I feel are important to further acceptance of Debian GNU/Hurd systems include: * umpppd * one of several dhcp clients Both of these may be hindered since both the tarball & CD installs still use GNU Mach 1.3 instead of GNU Mach 2.0. GNU Mach 2.0 will allow the user of new drivers through the use of oskit. The problem with using GNU Mach 2.0 has been the lack of a console driver. This is now quickly stabilizing thanks to Marcus' hard work. > I've been thinking to myself that an end-user HOWTO/FAQ would be > helpful. I just discovered this doc-in-progress today: > > http://seinfeld.arrowstreet.com/docs/using_the_hurd.html Oh, that's very interesting. I don't think I've seen that before. > which is along these lines. The current install doc by Neal Walfield is > super, but IMHO it could be expanded on with more topics and more > in-depth explanations and step-by-step instructions, which are really > important for new users. I and some others have added some notes to supplement Neal's guide at http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Hurd/InstallNotes as well as supplements for notes on the current tarball and CD set. http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Hurd/TarballNotes20020816 http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Hurd/CDNotesJ2 > It's been my experience that the Hurd is suitable now for basic > day-to-day use by hobbyists that want a system to tinker with and > run as a small-scale server. I wouldn't trust it as a server unless the tasks were clearly defined or there was some other compelling reason to run a GNU/Hurd system. With pthreads now getting stabilizied this is much more feasable. > If we can help people like these get the > Hurd running -- get the system installed and configured, get networking > and X working, and get a dial-up PPP interface working -- it may be > possible to get more people contributing to the effort(?) I couldn't agree with you more. I already touched on ppp and dhcp above. I think your work on Xfree86 is great. > I've found several old lists of links (some links outdated and some > dead), some newer lists, and have only recently discovered the > Hurd Building Guide (www.nongnu.org/hbg/hbg.html) and the Hurd > Twiki (hurd.gnufans.org). Would a meta-list of lists of links > be useful? Just thinking out loud here.... Sounds like fun. I've been actively trying to get all links into some coherent way into the wiki for everyone to use and edit. What are your ideas on implementing this? Cheers, -- -- Grant Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Help-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-hurd
