Hi Dave,

A minor comment on the time line. We can’t really do a deep foreground survey 
without some longer baselines. In particular in year two we’ll only have ~1/2 
degree imaging under this deployment plan and that could raise a red flag with 
a reviewer. Easiest fix is to say we’ll start foreground characterization in 
year 2, leaving it a bit vague. 

Best,

Miguel






> On Jan 18, 2016, at 10:44 AM, DAVID DEBOER <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi - regardless of the configuration, we need to finalize the build-out 
> schedule.  In the pre-proposal, we indicated that we would build the complete 
> core, then build the out-riggers.  We can remain a bit ambiguous on this in 
> the proposal, but we will have to decide at some point.  In the new config 
> there are 30 outriggers.
> 
> Here is the proposal schedule (minimal modification needed from the 
> pre-proposal) and below is an image showing a presumed core-first build-out.
> 
> Year 1:  HERA-37 observing and build-out to 125.  Characterize system.
> Year 2:  HERA-125 observing and build-out to 243.  Perform deep foreground 
> survey.  Deploy first nodes and update infrastructure.  Commission hardware.  
> HERA-37 results.
> Year 3:  HERA-243 observing and build-out to 350.  Detect EOR power spectrum 
> in HERA-125 results.
> Year 4:  HERA-350 observing.  Characterize power spectrum, constrain EOR 
> astrophysics in HERA-243 results.
> 
> Dave
> 
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> 
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Josh Dillon <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you talking about the dark pixels? That may be a pixelization effect, 
>> though the others have something similar (if you look closely). Also, I'm 
>> not worried about dark pixels, since they don't contribute to the confusion 
>> limit. Remember that this is a log scale (spanning 4 orders of magnitude). 
>> 
>> -Josh
>> 
>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Peter Williams <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Hi Josh,
>> 
>> The earth-rotation-synthesis version of the synthesized beam for 
>> configuration (c) [Figure 5c, right panel] seems to have a grating pattern 
>> in the sidelobes that's not present for configurations (a) and (b). I don't 
>> feel like I have a great sense for what the practical effect of that might 
>> be, but it seems potentially worrisome for imaging. Do you have a sense of 
>> where that comes from? 
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On Sat, 2016-01-16 at 13:23 -0800, Josh Dillon wrote:
>>> Dear HERAtics,
>>> 
>>> Aaron and I have been working on investigating how to arrange the 
>>> “inriggers" and outriggers for HERA. In particular, we’ve been interested 
>>> in two questions: 1) how do modifications to the configuration affect 
>>> imaging? and 2) how do they affect the ability to redundantly calibrate the 
>>> array (including outriggers) using Omnical? That work will become a paper 
>>> relatively soon (hopefully, before the proposal goes in). 
>>> 
>>> The key result is an idea for an array that includes a change to the array 
>>> core. Basically, I want to split it up into three segments, each relatively 
>>> displaced by less than the minimum baseline length. This is something we 
>>> should talk about as a collaboration, so I’d like to give everyone 
>>> something to think about before the next telecon.
>>> 
>>> I’ve attached the current draft of that paper (which is just an abstract, 
>>> outline, figures, and captions right now) that helps lay out the argument. 
>>> Basically, the proposed configuration (which is configuration (c) in the 
>>> paper) is more robustly calibratable with Omnical, produces lower 
>>> calibration errors, and modestly suppresses sidelobes. 
>>> 
>>> The key figures to look at are 1, 2, 3, 4, 10, and 11. The first four show 
>>> the proposed configurations and the instantaneous baseline redundancy 
>>> patters they produce. Both configurations (b) and (c) are designed to tile 
>>> the uv plane nicely, putting new baselines where information is sparsest. 
>>> Figures 10 and 11 show the expected gain errors on the antennas after 
>>> logcal, both with and without the outriggers. The other figures have to do 
>>> with imaging, where the effect is more subtle, and are harder to understand 
>>> without the supporting text that I still need to write.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps the most surprising result is that my original attempt to produce 
>>> perfectly tiled sub-grid baselines (see Figure 2b) actually leads to larger 
>>> calibration errors throughout the entire core by approximately 10%. That’s 
>>> because Omnical is trying to solve for a lot more visibilities with very 
>>> little information about them. That’s the main reason I think the 
>>> split-core is preferable to the kind of “inriggers" proposed in 
>>> configurations (a) and (b). The split core also allows for complete 
>>> simultaneous uv-coverage at triple density out to ~400 meters.
>>> 
>>> In case anyone is curious or wants to try doing a calculation with them, 
>>> I’ve attached text files with positions of the split-core + outriggers 
>>> (HERA-361). I’ve also attached a slightly more symmetric version with 11 
>>> core antennas removed (HERA-350), that currently Dave, Aaron, and I favor.
>>> 
>>> Of course, I welcome any feedback. Enjoy your long weekend (of proposal 
>>> writing)!
>>> 
>>> -Josh
>>> 
>> 
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