Regarding the bundles not being adopted... I never understood their benefit. I just returned to the docs to see if I missed something... There isn't anything there. No explanation of what they are or how they should be used. There is a mention of them in the Backups section of Import/Export but that is it. If Bundles are the primary means of doing backups then they deserve a full section by themselves.
If there is something there and I missed it, then that means it isn't in the right place or needs better marketing. And I am not alone because it isn't being used. However, backups are not on many developer's minds until something awful happens. I would bet you guys would see improved use after the Danger/MS mess if you A) actually had something to save the day and B) advertised it better. I always kinda had the feeling that Bundles were the "little red button" that I didn't ask about. >From the Fifth Element: Zorg: I hate warriors, too narrow-minded. I'll tell you what I do like though: a killer, a dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold blooded, clean, methodical and thorough. Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF-1, would've immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Oren Teich <[email protected]> wrote: > > Coincidentally, we've been working on documenting our security > policies (both how we treat your data as well as how we protect it). > This Danger/MS kerfufle shows me I can't get it out soon enough. > > In brief, there's two different aspects to this. > > 1) protection we provide. We provide disaster recovery of all data. > All database data is stored in a Raid 10 configuration. This provides > us a huge amount of resiliancy in case of individual hardware failure > on Amazon's side. In addition, all data in the database is backed up > once every 24 hours to Amazon S3. These backups are stored in > different availability zones to ensure no SPOF (single point of > failure). The backups are provided for disaster recovery only at this > time - they are not there to help individual application developers > recover. This is mostly due to process, not capability. We're > backing up the data in aggregate, so it's a few minutes of work to > restore an entire DB, but a few hours of work to restore an individual > app. > > 2) Protection we enable. Bundles are the best way for an individual > app owner to backup their entire app - git, database, etc. These > enable you to either store the data on our S3 account (with unlimited > bundles), or download them to your local machine. One common pattern > is to have cron on your mac automatically capture them for you and > download the next day. We've had surprisingly little adoption of the > unlimited_bundles add-on, and also not too much feedback on how we can > specifically improve the experiece. One obvious way would be to auto- > capture at a regular time, perhaps as part of the cron addon. > > Oren > > On Oct 12, 2009, at 6:11 AM, Chap wrote: > >> >> I'm sure we've all heard the news of Danger/MS loosing all their >> sidekicker's data. >> >> Which gets me thinking, what are you guys doing for backup? The >> bundles seem cool, but it would be nice if there was some automated >> way of creating them and downloading them on a regular basis. Not that >> I don't trust the cloud... >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Heroku" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/heroku?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
