On Dec 10, 11:06 pm, Morten Bagai <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah, I didn't catch the multi-domain part.

Well, wildcard is still interesting for me. I could replace
*.heroku.com with my own wildcard as a piggyback. I'd prefer to serve
sites admin/user panels of my clients from my own domain.

> Theoretically it might be possible. I don't think we have ever seen a 
> multi-domain cert in the
> wild at Heroku.

Actually I already tried this with two dummy apps and a multi-domain
certificate taken from production site - worked like a charm. Will
show you the apps once they are migrated (if I remember of course).

> Also, the solution we have in place now isn't designed
> for this in a couple of ways:
>
> 1) You would have to redeploy the cert every time it changed
> 2) With multiple busy apps, you might max out the resources of the SSL
> routing instance

Good points. As for the resources, such a feature would be useful
mostly for smaller sites.

>
> On Dec 10, 2:01 pm, Wojciech Kruszewski <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yes I believe it would be possible.
>
> > You could even create a service that would to the pooling: "I'll add
> > your domain to my multi-domain certificate for a yearly fee".
> > <emphasis>Theoretically</emphasis> this business model should work...
> > although I'd much prefer Heroku coming up with their solution.
>
> > Do you know is it  easy to add new domains to existing multi-domain
> > certificates?
>
> > Regards,
> > Wojciech
>
> > --http://twitter.com/WojciechK
>
> > On Dec 10, 10:44 pm, Doug Petkanics <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > If I am following your approach correctly, then I believe it would be
> > > possible for multiple Heroku users to "cooperate" on a single custom SSL
> > > addon using the following steps.
>
> > > 1. Alice and Bob agree to cooperate and split the costs between one 
> > > another
> > > outside of the scope of Heroku's billing.
> > > 2. Alice buys a multi domain SSL cert covering her domain and Bob's 
> > > domain.
> > > Alice also buys the custom SSL addon, and applies the certificate to her
> > > app.
> > > 3. Alice and Bob edit their domain's DNS settings to point to the 
> > > dedicated
> > > IP.
> > > 4. Bob enables piggyback ssl on his app, and gets the benefit of Alice's
> > > custom ssl addon. The multi-domain cert they bought includes both their
> > > domains.
>
> > > Heroku guys, if this approach would work, would you take issue with some
> > > users pooling together to reduce the cost? I don't ask in the spirit of
> > > taking advantage of your platform, but instead ask because the current 
> > > price
> > > of custom SSL is prohibitive from running smaller apps on the service 
> > > right
> > > now.
>
> > > Thoughts?
>
> > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Wojciech Kruszewski 
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > In fact this is possible with their current environment:
> > > >http://wojciech.oxos.pl/post/277669886/save-on-herokus-custom-ssl-addons
>
> > > > On Dec 9, 7:58 pm, Wojciech Kruszewski <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > This is theoretically possible with their architecture, but they are
> > > > > currently reviewing how easy it would be to implement it and if it's
> > > > > worth the trouble.
>
> > > > > I created a public feature request:
> > > >http://support.heroku.com/forums/42310/entries/87156
> > > > > - would you care to add your vote?
>
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Wojciech
>
> > > > > On Dec 8, 11:47 pm, Chris Hanks <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Wojciech, if you ask support about that and get some good news, 
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > you report back? I'm curious about this too.
>
> > > > > > Thanks!
>
> > > > > > Chris
>
> > > > > > On Dec 8, 2:05 pm, Oren Teich <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I don't know if that's possible or not it's probably a function of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > SSL protocol and our routing mesh, but it's beyond my technical
> > > > > > > knowledge.  Best bet is to drop support@ a line, and see what they
> > > > > > > say.  They'll be able to dig into the details for you.
>
> > > > > > > Oren
>
> > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Wojciech Kruszewski <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Thanks Oren, this makes sense.
>
> > > > > > > > So can that one mostly idle server handle SSL requests for 
> > > > > > > > multiple
> > > > > > > > applications?
>
> > > > > > > > I mean I tried Heroku and was very happy with the experience -
> > > > looks
> > > > > > > > like it needs little to no maintenance on my part. I'd wish to 
> > > > > > > > host
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > handful smaller web apps, each with 1-3 dynos.
>
> > > > > > > > I could live with piggyback ssl, if it was my own wildcard
> > > > > > > > certificate.
>
> > > > > > > > - Wojciech
>
> > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 8:58 pm, Oren Teich <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> They are totally independent.  The way our architecture works,
> > > > dynos
> > > > > > > >> run on machines called railguns, which are specially set up for
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >> job.  We have to setup a special (and yes, mostly idle) server
> > > > just to
> > > > > > > >> handle the SSL requests.  It's not possible with the product we
> > > > have
> > > > > > > >> today to run dynos on that server.
>
> > > > > > > >> Oren
>
> > > > > > > >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Wojciech Kruszewski <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > Hi,
>
> > > > > > > >> > I've read your explanation about why you charge $100/mo for
> > > > custom SSL
> > > > > > > >> > (http://docs.heroku.com/ssl#faq). You need exclusive IP, 
> > > > > > > >> > Amazon
> > > > > > > >> > assigns only one IP for an instance, so you need to reserve 
> > > > > > > >> > full
> > > > > > > >> > instance just to use one SSL cert - seems fair.
>
> > > > > > > >> > Ok, but if you reserve full EC2 instance just for me... then 
> > > > > > > >> > why
> > > > do I
> > > > > > > >> > have to pay for extra dynos? Aren't you double-billing for 
> > > > > > > >> > this
> > > > > > > >> > instance?
>
> > > > > > > >> > I believe it's "just against your architecture" but still I'd
> > > > like to
> > > > > > > >> > know the explanation.
>
> > > > > > > >> > Regards,
> > > > > > > >> > Wojciech
>
> > > > > > > >> > --
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