Marcin Jakubowski - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - is the point of  
contact I have for the team that built it but I think they're hard at  
work on other things right now :-)

I'm hopeful we'll get more pictures and notes soon.

In general - and I can't stress this too much - you have to check  
this stuff with qualified professionals before putting anybody's life  
on the line. Including your own, please.

At Burning Man building in Tuff-R if the building fails you might get  
hit by a 5lb roof board or your stuff might all blow away, but it's  
quite unlikely anybody is going to get seriously injured by a  
hexayurt failure. The only risk we saw was fire, and we've got big  
notices on the site advising on best practices for reducing fire risk  
and disclaiming responsibility.

So, on to plywood. A plywood roof cone is going to weight something  
in the region of 180 - 300 lbs. On the other hand, a moderate to  
heavy snow load (10 lbs per foot) would add 1660 lbs to the weight on  
the roof cone. At that point, if it *does* fail, it's going to be bad.

My guess - and this is purely a guess, based on my engineering  
intuition, is that 1" marine ply with very strong metal fasteners and  
beveled board edges to ensure full contact between the edges of all  
the boards - will be more than good enough to sustain that kind of  
snow load. But we'd need to do some engineering drawings and have a  
chartered engineer or something similar compute snow loads and rubber  
stamp the plans as "this will not fall over" before I'd feel  
comfortable saying "you can build it's reasonably safe."

Because snow is *very* heavy, and buildings designed to withstand big  
snow have to be engineered.

Other things that might help - the Pentayurt has a much steeper roof  
angle, so will accumulate less snow, although it's obviously a little  
smaller. Same amount of headroom over the 6' line, interestingly -  
the steeper roof helps.

http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/index.php?s=pentayurt&submit=Search

Really, though, by the time we start talking plywood, we're at the  
limits of my engineering capability. From here on in it needs people  
who actually know *buildings* to do some analysis and offer an opinion.

Sorry I can't be more help, but hopefully the Power of Free/Open  
Source will get us some analysis, and then people can build these  
everywhere.

Vinay

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On Sep 30, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Caroline Tigeress wrote:

>
>
>
> On Sep 29, 2:00 pm, Vinay Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> (note: reply all includes mailing lists, be aware.)
>>
>> Actually OSB , but it's a very similar material.
>> between improvised hexayurts, which are largely built in place, and
>> the deploy-and-redeploy fast-up fast-down folding models which need
>> some factory details.
>>
>> Vinay
>>
>> Hexayurt building went well - a 7/16″ Oriented Strand Board  
>> (OSB)
>> structure with 4 inch wide, 32 gage galvanized flashing as the
>> 'tape' to hold it together. Being familiar with standard
>> construction methods, I had my doubts concerning the structural
>> integrity of a tension srtucture. I have been converted after this
>> project.
>>
>> The opposing walls gave strength to each other and to the roof. Once
>> all panels were in place they could support people walking on top.
>> Using minimal resources we were able to construct a space of 166 sq
>> feet in two full days - at a cost of $132 for panels and flashing-
>> not considering paint, tar, screws, nails, and 2×4s used in  
>> the walls.
>
>    Very cool.  I was thinking about using this concept in Eastern
> Washington - but we have some healthy snow loads there.  Do you think
> this could take such things?  I'd be going with 8' wide (4 x 8) type
> dimensions.  Can you also elaborate a little bit more about the 2 x
> 4's in the walls?
>
>    Thanks,
>    Caroline
>
> >


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