About foil tape over the bi-di tape: I used to think that was overkill for a week's worth of burning man, mine certainly weathered fine after 9 days, and 2 rainstorms. I just saw several yurts who sat on playa for a month: that tape is holding together, but it peels right off-- all the glue is dried and crusty, windstorms were enough to rip at the tape a bit. They covered their tape with some duct tape eventually (and I hate duct tape in the playa heat!) Basically, this tape isn't standing up to UV. So, if you think your yurt will be up long term, or re-used a lot, it's worthy to consider either adding foil tape (which can be purchased cheaper than bi-directional), or any tape that will cut the light. You could probably even paint over the tape, if you're making tape hinges at home that's worth it (but paint=moop on the playa unless you're careful with it.) I will be putting something over my pre-made hinges for sure, as I'll be out there at least 12 days this year.
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:03 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Today's Topic Summary > > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt/topics > > - Boutique plywood furniture <#131051fa23d9ed31_group_thread_0> [3 > Updates] > - some nice hexayurts for sale in LA.<#131051fa23d9ed31_group_thread_1>[1 > Update] > - Windows <#131051fa23d9ed31_group_thread_2> [2 Updates] > - I built a Plywood H13 Hexayurt at the Cloughjordan ecovillage > today<#131051fa23d9ed31_group_thread_3>[5 Updates] > - groovy h13 <#131051fa23d9ed31_group_thread_4> [1 Update] > - semi-folding H13 experience <#131051fa23d9ed31_group_thread_5> [1 > Update] > > Topic: Boutique plywood > furniture<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt/t/daa22c3694cecf6> > > [email protected] Jul 06 09:14PM ^ <#131051fa23d9ed31_digest_top> > > http://plydea.com > > Beautiful and clever. I was quite inspired by their design aesthetic > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > > > > Brian Chabot <[email protected]> Jul 06 06:02PM -0400 > ^<#131051fa23d9ed31_digest_top> > > Looks like a spin-off from these guys: > > http://www.playatech.com/ > > > > > > > > Cody Firestone <[email protected]> Jul 06 06:40PM -0500 > ^<#131051fa23d9ed31_digest_top> > > Ummmm.... Maybe...... > > > > > Topic: some nice hexayurts for sale in > LA.<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt/t/965d951494c0d832> > > "Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)" <[email protected]> Jul 07 > 12:30AM +0100 ^ <#131051fa23d9ed31_digest_top> > > http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/spo/2478612498.html > > -- > Vinay Gupta > Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest > > http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering > http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision > > "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an > invincible summer" - Albert Camus > > Twitter/Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk/AIM: hexayurt > UK Cell : +44 (0) 7500 895568 / USA VOIP (+1) 775-743-1851 > > > > Topic: Windows<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt/t/7c6f314d35a96515> > > "The Distinguished ..." <[email protected]> Jul 06 05:08PM -0400 > ^<#131051fa23d9ed31_digest_top> > > Greetings, > > > > I'm planning to tape the plastic to the outside and hinge the panel > > cutout into the window opening so we can close it when we want > > darkness. > > Have you thought about "Deck Prisms"? They have been used on old > sailing ships for decades. Unlike the plastic bottle solution (the > bleach/copper is to help keep things from growing, antifreeze is good > too) these are solid. The same thing can be done with a reflective > inner surface, catching the light and drawing it down. If you combine > this with fuller's pipe, you have light and ventilation. Throw a > fresnel lens or two in the mix, and your light is that much more > intense. > > Percy > > > > > kenwinston caine <[email protected]> Jul 06 03:26PM -0700 > ^<#131051fa23d9ed31_digest_top> > > Percy, I think you taught me about deck prisms last time I brought > this up. > > They're an elegant solution for permanent installs, though pricey to > get them in a decent size. I shopped quite a few sites. The small ones > are affordable. But to get something the size of a quart or gallon > jar, you're going to pay hundreds of dollars, I think. So -- if it's > for a a dark room in a dwelling you're planning to live in for 30 > years or longer -- well worth the investment. Although you can > accomplish pretty much the same thing by reusing a an otherwise > discarded or recycled glass jar and some methanol or other antifreeze. > In my climate, even a methanol-filled jar is likely to freeze and > expand just enough to break on a winter night at least once every five > years. A deck prism is not going to freeze and break. > > Now, tell me more about fuller's pipes. When I Google the term, I come > up with plumbers and plumbing supply shops owned by folks named > Fuller. > > And yes, the news report about the South American who this year > "invented" water-filled plastic bottle refracting lights does put an > antibacterial of some sort in his bottles. I think it WAS bleach. And > I'm sure that is to stop the otherwise inevitable algae growth (and > other flora). Although anyone who has owned a hot tub knows that > chlorine is ineffective in halting algae growth in hot water. And > these bottles, catching the sun all day, are certain to hold hot > water. It probably does slow down the growth of algae and bacteria for > quite awhile though. > > Do recall that in the You Tube video of the news report they used a > candlepower measuring device and found that a 1 litre water-filled > bottle refracting sunlight into a darkened room provided the > equivalent amount of light as does a 60-watt incandescent bulb. Nice > for a simple, free solution. Not sure what time of day and under what > weather conditions that measurement was taken. If at noon on a clear > day then that's probably about the max a 1-litre bottle can produce. > > I wouldn't recommend using plastic bottles in permanent installs > because: > > 1. They will discolor in the sun and lose their effectiveness. > 2. Many nowadays contain soybean oil and some other chemistry designed > into them to help them biodegrade (albeit slowly) in landfill > conditions. > > Don't think you want to install something in your roof that is going > to need to replaced regularly. > > Best, > ken winston caine > > > > On Jul 6, 3:08 pm, "The Distinguished ..." <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Topic: I built a Plywood H13 Hexayurt at the Cloughjordan ecovillage > today <http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt/t/ff7a5393c7ab962f> > > LaRahna <[email protected]> Jul 06 01:53PM -0400 > ^<#131051fa23d9ed31_digest_top> > > I saw the build made out of OSB....I wonder if the LP Techshield > product > would be a good fit for the wood (osb) structure)? > > http://www.youtube.com/LPBuildingProducts#p/u/10/qH9FD9rvbDw > > http://www.lpcorp.com/techshield/ > Live life fully today! > LaRahna > > > 2011/7/1 Lucas González <[email protected]> > > > > > > "Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)" <[email protected]> Jul 06 > 06:55PM +0100 ^ <#131051fa23d9ed31_digest_top> > > Wow, shiny vapor-barrier OSB. That's excellent! > > V> > > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en. > > -- > Vinay Gupta > Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest > > http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering > http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision > > "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an > invincible summer" - Albert Camus > > Twitter/Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk/AIM: hexayurt > UK Cell : +44 (0) 7500 895568 / USA VOIP (+1) 775-743-1851 > > > > > LaRahna <[email protected]> Jul 06 02:07PM -0400 > ^<#131051fa23d9ed31_digest_top> > > Not vapor barrier. That brand has a technology (holes of some sort) > that > allows moisture escape. Thinking the attached radiant barrier on the > inside > and maybe one of the nanopaints with a radiant barier filler on the > outside > is a simple and relatively inexpensive step 1 fix. At my local home > depot > the 7/16" LP brand techshield is $8.67 only a bit more than the regular > osb > at $6.27...about a $30 project cost increase....but you cant buy > radiant > barrier for that price so i'm thinking it would be a good deal for wood > structures! > Live life fully today! > LaRahna > > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) > < > > > > > Cody Firestone <[email protected]> Jul 06 01:25PM -0500 > ^<#131051fa23d9ed31_digest_top> > > FYI i tried to check out the lp site, they are down right now. Bummer > > Sounds great! Probably uses a gore-tex type vapor barrier where vapor > of h2o > pass, but liquid h2o, being more dense, cannot pass thru. it uses the > water > tension of liquid h2o v individual molecules of vapor. > > I would NOT flip it backwards. building products are > generally designed to go on one way, other wise you could be TRAPPING > the > heat / vapor, etc in your hut. > > > > > > > > LaRahna <[email protected]> Jul 06 05:06PM -0400 > ^<#131051fa23d9ed31_digest_top> > > Not sure what link i put up but its http://www.lpcorp.com/techshield/and I > checked and its up. > > Live life fully today! > LaRahna > > > > > > Topic: groovy > h13<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt/t/5a54c7e1dca56f4e> > > LaRahna <[email protected]> Jul 06 12:59PM -0400 > ^<#131051fa23d9ed31_digest_top> > > I'm following the H13 tech! I like it. 1 board offers a lot. I'm > putting > some feelers out for class members looking to do an learning build. > I've > partnered with a facility with warehouse space..so I can do some inside > building. I also am meeting with a guy this week interested in possibly > use > the hexayurt to replace housing (had a major fire) at a training > center/compound of sort run by a native american in north georgia! Hope > to > be building some more hexayurts soon! > > Good progress, good progress!!! > > Live life fully today! > LaRahna > > > > Topic: semi-folding H13 > experience<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt/t/44790df4d63d7c39> > > dou <[email protected]> Jul 06 06:52PM +0300 > ^<#131051fa23d9ed31_digest_top> > > My friend was very sick, and I was only able to do one half-roof and > one > three-wall piece by myself on Monday. It all seemed to work and fit > together > really well, and all tight-hinges on the roof does seem to make the > design > stronger. But I was not yet able to put the full roof together, so I > cannot > comment on the stability of the completed structure. > > Has anyone else attempted a two-piece roof with > all-camp-danger-tight-hinges > on a semi-folding H13? > > -dou > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) > < > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hexayurt" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en.
