Thankz heaps Chas. Cozy comfort here I come!


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From: "Chasomatic" <[email protected]>
To: "hexayurt" <[email protected]>
Subject: [hexayurt] Re: Windows and COOLING on the PLAYA
Date: Mon, Aug 1, 2011 12:01 pm


Steve,

The fan I use is"

        Silverstone Air Penetrator AP181 180 x 180 x 32mm Fan - (SST-AP181)

I believe it's in the 120 to 140 cfm section of the website.

On Jul 28, 12:09 pm, Steve Upstill <[email protected]> wrote:
> Chasomatic,
>
> I'm looking at the Frozen CPU site and they have a buttload of 12V fans. Any 
> clues for getting closer to what you're talking about?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
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>
> On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:39 AM,Chasomaticwrote:
>
> > I use the Home Depot bucket style of swamp cooler.
>
> > My pumps come from Harbor Freight and they're Solar powered fountain
> > pumps for outdoor gardens ($19.95). They have a pressure head of at
> > least 3 feet and their own solar panel. Net power consumption ZERO!
> > My fan comes from Frozen CPU, I can't remember the exact numbers right
> > now but it's specially designed to give a column of air not the normal
> > dispersal pattern. It draws 0.7 amps to run and puts out around 120
> > cfm ($31 with shipping). It shoots the air out of the pipe.
>
> > I think my total power use will be about 1.0 (.3 pump+.7 fan) amps per
> > hour. Last year I didn't run the SC very late into the evening but it
> > may be hotter this year. Maybe 8.5 watts per hour from my 10 watt
> > solar panel/battery. It's close, but I may be a balanced power
> > system.
>
> > My first effort for this year's swamp cooler was a little weak, but I
> > still have it. Has anyone built a chest from Hexayurt panels to keep
> > beer cool? I think my small SC would be enough to work but I don't
> > know how to calculate the potential temperature drop (would it be
> > worth it?).
>
> > any ideas
>
> > On Jul 10, 8:20 am, Richard Ginn <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> another way to have water flow down over the material is with a large
> >> reservoir (plastic garbage can) above it that you refill by hand (bucket) 
> >> as
> >> needed.  50 gallons would trickle down all night maybe?
>
> >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 3:31 AM, ken winston caine <
>
> >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> **
> >>> Pretty amazing amount of pumping for 6 watts, Richard.
>
> >>> Still, if I'm running it 24 hours a day (along with the fan) during the
> >>> current 100-plus degree days and high 70s to high 80s nights until about 4
> >>> a.m. when finally it starts to cool down a little, I'm using 282 watts a
> >>> day. That's 1/5 of the total electricity I have available each 
> >>> non-overcast
> >>> day from my solar system. That's a pretty big bite and I can probably 
> >>> afford
> >>> it only a day or two a week and keep the system healthy.
>
> >>> It's NOTHING if you're on the grid. And a wonderful savings compared to
> >>> typical pumps.
>
> >>> Best,
> >>> ken winston caine
>
> >>> P.S. Am going to look into it, anyway. Because it would be really nice to
> >>> be able to use it if only from 2 p.m. to 8 p.m. or so when the inside of 
> >>> my
> >>> RV heats up into the middle 90s most days this time of year. My 
> >>> self-wicking
> >>> coolers bring the air right in front of me and on my face down to the mid
> >>> 80s while I'm working at my desk, which is much more tolerable than mid 
> >>> 90s.
> >>> But if I could force more water into the pads, and add pads, I could get
> >>> better cooling.
>
> >>> Have been meaning to hook up the Kill-a-Watt meter up to an aquarium pump
> >>> and see what kind of wattage it draws. If it's less than 6 watts, I'll
> >>> report that here. (Doubt that it will be.)
>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> *From:* Richard Ginn <[email protected]>
> >>> *To:* [email protected]
> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:21 PM
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [hexayurt] Windows and COOLING on the PLAYA
>
> >>> For 6 watts you can power a 12-volt CPU water cooling pump that is rated 
> >>> at
> >>> 132 gallons per hour, and then you don't have to wick the water at all:
>
> >>>http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6073/ex-pmp-53/Danger_Den_DD-CPX1_1...
>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:11 PM, ken winston caine <
> >>> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> Jack, I've experimented with developing a 7-watt, self-wicking swamp
> >>>> cooler
> >>>> that works pretty well.
>
> >>>> Haven't experimented with EVERY fabric known to man, but did find,
> >>>> surprisingly, that absorbant paper towels tended to wick better than 
> >>>> about
> >>>> any cloth fabric I could test.But even., then, they tend to wick up only
> >>>> about 6 inches above the water surface.
>
> >>>> What really helps is to hang them with open pleats facing the air source
> >>>> and
> >>>> allowing a tiny bit of air space between each hanging wick. That allows
> >>>> the
> >>>> air to pass between them a tiny bit. If using a high-efficiency,
> >>>> low-wattage
> >>>> 12v fan ma

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