On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:29:57 AM UTC-6, Cody from Washington DC wrote:
>
> Ummm I'm not sure about you all, but i learned the basics of sketch up in 
> an afternoon.  the tutorials are very simple and easy.  
>
>
Yes, I agree totally with your post. Sketchup is very easy to figure out. 
Will take the mythical "100 hours" to be able to *really* get "fluent".
That's what I was getting at.
Same time scale as all these other CAD etc. packages (some will take much 
longer!)
I'm certain that the figure with hold up in real life. Geeks just don't 
keep track of things like this, but they *do* spend that much time.
I'm sure their "significant others" will heartily agree with me.

But anyway...these other packages don't have the rich community library of 
free pre-made parts that Sketchup does:

http://www.sketchup.com/product/3dwh.html

This enables quicker finished concepts than VARKON eh?
Need a lawnmower wheel? Download one in minutes.
Steel framing stud?...Simpson framing tie straps? Got them in great detail.
Nuts, bolts, piping, trees, rocks, furniture you name it. For free.

Why are *all* the existing models of Hexayurts done with Sketchup and not 
Autocad etc.?
Because it was quickly comprehended by the novice and a perfect fit. That 
counts.
I predict that Hexayurt models will continue to be shared between many with 
Sketchup *only*.
Any other software package would just limit adoption.
Upload some crude .DXF models somewhere and see what happens.

I'm glad the dark ages are over. And I welcome open collaboration with 
Sketchup users now and into the future.
It's a stellar tool for getting work done between regular people.

This is what should be praised. 

Is it about being on the side of the open source angels...or getting 
shelter to the masses?
We need to work *with* the masses...not deliver the products from up on 
high.
Confusion and fragmentation is part of the open source world. 
In the case of urgent shelter situations, who needs that?


Here's a guy that is completely closed source and prob. used Autocad. His 
T-Shel2 is a complete winner:
http://www.ubershelter.org/about.html

His design blows away the Hexayurt for a few reasons...not to mention it's 
a fully engineer stamped and thought out structure.

But, it's closed source/for profit. So no Sketchup files for everybody (not 
just geeks) to modify and improve on.
Too bad. I think he won the race with his no brainer design for the refugee 
masses though.
His eventual impact? Small. Because he limited himself.

At least Lorin tried a little with his solar cooker design:

Solar Fire's beautiful concentrators: An open source secret | News | 
Engineering for Change - http://bit.ly/M3g688
This reviewer put up Lorin's slightly flawed Sketchup file at the bottom of 
that article.
At least the design is *out there*. I was able to take it and remix my own 
version:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/52187564/ASTRA-Solar-Fire-Phaeton-HexMirrors.jpg

This is how it SHOULD be done.

So yeah, everybody use what ya want...then waste time figuring out how to 
collaborate (*if* you ever collaborate that is).
I'll be out there pushing things forward...step by step:

http://www.instructables.com/id/HexaFrame-2x4-Shelter-1/

Sounds harsh? Ehh. It's a harsher world out there. 
I can't wait for you to join me! Lots of work to be done.




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