My concern is wind load and panel shift. An 8 foot tall box with no guy wires or internal structure could be pretty shaky in the wind!
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Al Noel Sansolis <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello fellow yurters! > > The short update...no production until tested at BM 2013. > > Vinay: Thank you for the reply! Considering that you are the father of > the hexayurt, I am honored with your response. > > I've been simulating scenarios with different geometries and have reached > a point where it's time to test how well the edges seal out water. If > needed, a more economical tape can be used to seal the roof instead of > bi-filament tape which is expensive and can delaminate the skins from > the panels when removed. A tarp/rainfly over the roof attached to the 1/4" > holes at the clip ends in rainy conditions is also an option. > > The hexagonal structure is a very rigid shape; I am picturing a 6-person > team to lift the roof onto the walls. If done this way, the clips do not > need to grip the panels but focus on keeping the panels in position. > > "Affordable" still remains to be determined but with a growing yurt > population of 250+ on the playa from 2011 to 2012, the market may now be > substantial enough compared to 2008 or 2009. The feedback from this forum > has been priceless! > > Aimee: The yurtclips need to be tested. > > Sean: These are the ends of the yurtclips for the 90deg and 180deg > configurations: > > > > <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SpinzywTjoM/Uf1ed1QhTnI/AAAAAAAAABc/kVke3BipjQw/s1600/IMG_2401.JPG> > In regards to the tetrayurt, yurtclips at a T-intersection will need a > 1.25" strip of tape and 2" at a Y-intersection to fully seal the shelter. > Because the yurtclips are rigid and are anchored with L-brackets, masking > tape can be used. > With the tetrayurt having an 8-foot ceiling, bunk beds and/or shelves will > fit. > > I am finalizing the design of yurtclips at 120deg and 151deg for hexayurts. > > Having said all that, does someone want to volunteer (in addition to > myself) using yurtclips at BM this year? > > Thank you for all your questions and feedback! > AlNoel S. > > > On Sunday, August 11, 2013 3:05:03 AM UTC-7, Vinay Gupta wrote: > >> PS: sorry for the late reply on this, I've been run off my legs for the >> last month or so and am X-hundred emails behind. >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> AlNoel, I'm glad to see somebody trying the extrusions/clips approach. >>> We kicked it around in 2008 or 2009 but instead chose to develop the tape >>> option, largely because of the manufacturing difficulties of getting >>> extrusions made without a substantial market lined up. I'm glad you've >>> figured out an affordable way to do this! >>> >>> Couple of things we found worth pondering: >>> 1) Tiny variations in materials thickness can make a big difference to >>> clip grip strength >>> >>> 2) water handling - the top edge of the clip can get water under it, >>> which will flow up-and-under to the side of the panel or even inside the >>> unit, again largely depending on grip strength >>> >>> I hope you'll post lots of pictures of the clips: if it works, it would >>> be a viable option to get them manufactured at the angles needed for the >>> six-sided geometries, which would be great for everybody! >>> >>> Good luck, and keep us posted. >>> >>> Vinay >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Al Noel Sansolis <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi guys, >>>> With all the preparations for burning man, I do not have time to build >>>> a sexy hexayurt. I do have time to assemble a rectangular yurt >>>> with tapeless joints. >>>> I have engineered reusable joints that slip fit over the edges of >>>> 1"x4'x8' sheets; I call them yurtclipz. They will be made from recycled >>>> plastic or aluminum. Depending on your imagination, the layout options are >>>> endless. The configurations are based on 4'x8' modules all with 8' >>>> ceilings. >>>> I'm fabricating a set for me and my friends and was wondering if anyone >>>> one else might be interested. The more sets ordered, the more economical >>>> it is but we're aiming for $190/set for the 160 sq.ft configuration, 19 >>>> sheets required. If you're interested, I will deliver the set to you on >>>> the playa because they won't be done until the 21st. I'm in the LA area >>>> but I don't mind delivering it to you on the playa assuming 1000 sets >>>> aren't ordered! >>>> >>>> I'm sure you have questions but I wanted to keep this short and find >>>> out if it's even worth mentioning. I have digital 3D models, drawings, 3D >>>> printed models, and quotes. >>>> Please let me know what you think! >>>> >>>> Thanks for your time, >>>> AlNoel S. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to hexayurt+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> >>>> Visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/**group/hexayurt<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Vinay Gupta >>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >>> >>> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc <http://bit.ly/gupta_arc%20>- the Gupta State >>> Failure Management Archive >>> http://bit.ly/gupta_ark - or see it directly on Archive.org >>> >>> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering >>> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision >>> >>> "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an >>> invincible summer" - Albert Camus >>> >>> Twitter/Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk/AIM: hexayurt >>> UK Cell : +44 (0) 7500 895568 / USA VOIP (+1) 775-743-1851 >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Vinay Gupta >> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >> >> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc <http://bit.ly/gupta_arc%20>- the Gupta State >> Failure Management Archive >> http://bit.ly/gupta_ark - or see it directly on Archive.org >> >> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering >> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision >> >> "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an >> invincible summer" - Albert Camus >> >> Twitter/Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk/AIM: hexayurt >> UK Cell : +44 (0) 7500 895568 / USA VOIP (+1) 775-743-1851 >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hexayurt" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. 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