Also, watch the video on youtube I posted here on the earthship hut. A loft 
and roof vent similar to that. Would like to do a cistern like theirs, but 
that's not going to go well will the earthen roof.

On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 4:46:45 AM UTC-4, Vinay Gupta wrote:
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>
> Two points
>
> 1> remember those foam panels won't take any pressure from the ground 
> around them at all: they're just insulation. Ditto moisture issues: keep 
> them dry.
>
> 2> I know you're tight on cash, but the heavier grade "thermax hd" type 
> panels (and search the group - there are several alternatives) might be 
> more suitable for this kind of long term use, or a plywood hexayurt with 
> (say) reflectix-type insulation stapled up on the inside.
>
> It almost sounds like you might want a hexayurt roof over a hole in the 
> ground - do the walls with traditional below-grade building techniques, and 
> then use a hexayurt roof on top. Best of both worlds?
>
> Good luck and keep us posted - lot of smart, experienced people on the 
> group with good ideas and hard-won experience.
>
> V>
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> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:35 AM, James Cockerham <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
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>> Here's a quick sketch of the idea using logs and the earthen roof. Some 
>> design issues with window facing, ventilation and maybe drainage. So, I'll 
>> probably just order some tape and go with a foam H13 for now. The sketch 
>> below is essentially a log wofati H13 with 8' walls with a 4' high loft at 
>> its highest. I'm thinking the windows would face southeast and southwest. 
>> Not sure how to safely incorporate the hut earthship style vent in the 
>> roof. So, will think about it for awhile.
>>  
>> <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Jq2cS1wO6vo/U9is-OxIJgI/AAAAAAAAFVE/uDGE-0NsAiM/s1600/hexawofati.jpg>.
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:03:47 PM UTC-4, James Cockerham wrote:
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>>>
>>>> Another idea, working with some of Mike Oehler's underground methods is 
>>> to use 6" wide timbers as post on the six sides, as well as the roof of the 
>>> hex. Dig a 4' deep hexagon in the earth, install 8' posts in each corner. 
>>> Hex will have to be dug wider than actual structure to give room to install 
>>> shoring and polyethylene. Shoring can be timbers also so the interior looks 
>>> like a log cabin. Use excavated dirt to berm exposed 4'... In typical 
>>> designs, these houses have a shed roof draining to the downhill side. With 
>>> a hexyurt roof, water will drain to all sides. So, possibly an extended 
>>> gable with pie shaped shoring to make sure water drains to the sides of the 
>>> house and a uphill patio with French drains installed, or even just a 
>>> gutter leading to a barrel on the exposed entrance side. 
>>>
>>> The spot I'm planning to put this is on top of a mountain on a fairly 
>>> flat spot with gentle slope. The 4' excavation would make an overall 12' 
>>> hexayurt, with probably enough room and strength for a sleeping loft. Since 
>>> this spot is fairly flat this structure after completion would look like a 
>>> small mound with plants and eventually trees growing on its roof. Not as 
>>> camouflaged as a shed roofed underground house built into a slope of a 
>>> hill, but still more camouflaged than a silver structure or conventional 
>>> home.
>>>
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