My old piano teacher used to tape over the right hand parts and make me play 
only the left, week after week.

"Your right hand is good, your left hand is WEAK!!!  WEAK!!!  From now on, 
until I tell you different, when you play here you play sitting on your right 
hand."

She filled my practices with boogie-woogie, swing, jazz, but only the 
basslines.  The first to get a rhythm sense, the others to get my hand used to 
going all over the keyboard.

After 23 years of instruction, I finally got to play both hands together 
(grin).  And the doctors say they might be able to partially fix the right-hand 
shaped dent in my behind.

The moral of this story - most instruments other than strings don't teach your 
left hand as strong as your right because that is not your melody hand.  
Guitar, any of the bowed instruments, bass, on those your left hand controls 
the melody.  Thus you learn to favor it, and concentrate on it.  These are the 
'left hand teaching' instruments.

I started to build rebecs a few years ago, and I have learned more left hand 
control because of them than I ever learned on piano.

Chris Nogy

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On 1/10/2007 at 9:35 AM Oscar Picazo Ruiz wrote:
I agree about the percussion lessons. My first approach to music was bodhran 
and afrocuban percussion (congas, bongo, etc) and it has helped a lot with the 
right hand, and also to keep my left in time with the right.

And for the left, ¿any ideas on other instruments which might help? maybe 
keyboards?


2007/1/9, Melissa Kacalanos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Jim, (and hi to everyone in hg list land)

I realized I could have summarized my advice in my last email by advising you 
to first work on some simple hg tunes that are meant to be played on hg. That's 
a much easier starting point than attempting tunes that would be better on a 
fiddle, and might even be impossible on a hg. That wouldn't have helped you 
with this particular performance, though.

Advice about drones vs. chords is one thing, but my main advice to you is to 
find some other hg players to learn from. I guess that's what this list is for, 
but real live people are even better than email.

If there aren't hg players around, it might sound strange, but you could take 
drum lessons (particularly if your hg has a buzzing bridge.) I started off as a 
drummer, and the rhythms I learned, and the sense of rhythm I developed, are 
very valuable to me as a hg player now.

I had a very similar experience to yours last summer, in which I was working 
with extremely talented, professional musicians and a composer who 
unfortunately composed stuff for me that was physically impossible to play on a 
hg. (She wanted things like lots of rhythmic buzzing bridge, but she didn't 
want to hear the drone string the bridge is on. That sort of thing.) 
Fortunately, I had the experience to know what was possible and what wasn't, so 
we eventually came to a musical agreement, but it took a lot of explaining. It 
would have been awful if I'd been in the same situation with less experience, 
since I wouldn't have been able to tell explain things to the composer.

Enjoy your hg, and get good at it fast, since it sounds like you're in demand.

Melissa

james kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Wow,
Thank you very much for the response. that was exactly what I was looking for. 
The hurdy gurdy is my first instrument and I am just begining to learn what 
music, keys at whatnot are all about.  I live on Orcas Island,WA  where just 
about anything can happen. Including a bare bones beginner being pared with a 
couple of musicians that play 100 concerts a year world wide.  The violin my 
gurdy played with was built in late 1600's Italy. I had no idea what I was 
doing and just listened to them.

I must say though, It was a huge learning experience to go on stage and know 
there would be no backing up. Rehearsal were no problem, but during 
performances I could not hear well and had to watch her play. It was my first 
experience playing along with someone else. I don't even know how to count. I 
had the advantage of watching her bow, much like a baton. I also learned how to 
cotton my strings so I could get a clear note on the entire range, I practiced 
so much I ended up changing the cotton every day.

Thanks for pointing out the difference in drone instruments and other stuff.I 
had no idea on that .

The father of the woman I played with was concert master for seattle for the 
last 25 years and recognized how new I was to the instrument. He loves the 
Hurdy Gurdy and encouraged me to continue.

Thank you again on your comments,

Jim



Melissa Kacalanos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hm. Some tunes just aren't meant to be played on hg. Many tunes, I suspect like 
this one you mention, just wouldn't work with a constant drone on any note, 
whatever the note is. In your example, your trompette and petit bourdon are 
playing a constant open E chord. Then whenever your open chanter sounds (which 
it almost inevitably will, between some notes) you're playing an E minor chord. 
I suspect that if this worked at all, it did so by making the whole tune seem 
like it was in E minor, so people couldn't hear the D major-ness of the first 
part.

Actually, how do we know it really switched from D major to E minor? That might 
just be the interpretation of these musicians, who are trained to think in 
terms of key changes and chord progressions all the time instead of drones. 
Maybe if one of us drone-based people heard it, we would just say, "Nice tune 
in E minor, and I like how the dissonance at the beginning resolves in the 
middle."

Or, if they wanted to keep the D to E shift, in a situation like this, I might 
have turned my drones off for the beginning, and then turned on a drone in E at 
the change. This makes for a nice dynamic change as well as a key change. This 
only works if the changes don't come too fast or frequently, though.

But in general, I don't like to waste my efforts trying to get my hg to play 
tunes with certain key changes or chord progressions, which would work much 
better on a piano or violin or something. What hgs are good at is playing tunes 
that work well with drones. This includes, besides the vast world of early and 
traditional hg music, tunes from drone-loving traditions from around the world. 
That includes bagpipe tunes from Sweden to Morocco to Bulgaria, much Indian 
music (which often uses a tambura to provide a drone), and much Arabic and 
Turkish music (which often use plucked string instruments with both drone and 
melody strings). That's a lot of music. Let's not get greedy and try to play 
music that sounds better on piano or violin.

Melissa

james kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello,
A couple weeks ago I was playing a street musician in a local adaptation of A 
Christmas Carol on Orcas Island, wa. I am both a begining hurdy gurdy player 
and musician. The individual I was paired with is a (very patient) professional 
violinist.

One of the songs was a jig and started out in e minor and switched to d major.  
 I had no idea what to set my drones to, and consulted her & her husband who is 
a professional pianist. Neither are familiar with the hurdy gurdy but both are 
top notch musicians and finally they decided that I should tune my minstrel 
gurdy as follows. the petit bourdon should be B, the chanter G, and the 
trompette E'.  This was not their first choice, but were taking into 
consideration the tension allowances of the strings I had.
It ended up sounding kinda cool.
Has anyone else out there tried this sort of arrangement?

Jim Kruse



Anthony Shostak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi, folks.

I'm sure this has come up before, but I'm wondering what your collective
wisdom is regarding G/C or D/G for playing Irish and related tunes? It
seems straightforward enough to play out of G/C, using the upper rows of
keys and capos for the drones, but with much of the repertoire fitting
well on pipes and flutes that don't go lower than D, perhaps D/G would
wind up being a bit easier and fit within the range of the instrument
without too much octave shifting. Or is it really just a matter of
making a choice and sticking with it?

Best,

Anthony





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