>      The keys vibrate on the gurdy I'm building when I
> bow the string quickly.  I thought I made the keys fit
> pretty snug but I'm guessing not enough.. I took some
> thin clear plastic styrene sheet and glued it to the
> edge's of the keys to give it a better fit but I'm
> still getting the vibrating.
>
> Any thoughts on why this is happening?  I'm thinking
> I'm going to have to make a new key box...   Thanks, Seth
>


I don't always trust that all my email gets through, but it seems to me
that no one has replied to your question, Seth, so I'll stir the pot.  The
basic point first:

I see that you specify that it only happens when you crank fast.  Sorry if
this seems a simple answer that you've already considered, but sometimes,
if the tangents are too close to the melody string(s), faster cranking can
make the string's amplitude great enough that the vibrating string can
strike the tangents at or near the octave keys.  Are you sure that this
"rattling" of the string against the tangents isn't what you're hearing?

Perhaps not, which leads me to the more complicated issue: Note that I
said "no one has replied to your question," rather than, "no one has
answered your question."  It sure would be great if there was a simple
answer to vibration problems, but based on my experience and that of
others who have shared it, it's just as likely that your problem isn't
simply one of keys that fit too loosely.  I have seen some instruments
with very loose, worn keys that don't present any problem at all, and I've
seen (and built!) others with very precisely fit keys that make a horrible
racket!

The problem, it seems, is often that the instrument ends up with a natural
resonant frequency that makes everything loose (keys, in this case)
rattle.  It may be just one note on the melody strings, or it may end up
being a combination of different octaves sounding together or even two
unison notes not quite in tune.  On one lute-back G/C hurdy-gurdy I made
(which was made on the same forms and intended to be exactly like others
I've made), the open melody strings caused the keys to rattle with
particular quality that can only be described as a dull roar!  If I tuned
the strings slightly off a true G (by A440 standards)in either direction,
the rattle was silenced.

What did I do?  I chose not to follow some advice I got: "Just re-string
it to D/G"!  I noticed that in this case the rattle changed depending on
where I grasped or put pressure on the keybox: I was lucky enough to find
that by adding bits of extra mass in a couple of places out of sight
beneath the keys inside the keybox, I was able to change the way the
keybox absorbs the vibrations and squashed the noise.

If this resonance is your trouble, then the problem becomes: once you
complete a hurdy-gurdy, how do you change this resonating frequency so
that your keys don't rattle?  Maybe *looser* fitting keys are the answer? 
Lighter weight keys?  Heavier keys?  I sure would like to hear more about
whether anyone else has successfully tackled this problem...

~ Matt

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