I haven't checked email for a while, and man, there are a lot to catch up on.
I've been wondering why so many people do hgs based on Bosch, yet I never
seem to hear about people doing Bruegel-style ones. This Breugel painting, for
example, has a very cool looking hg, played by the apparently left-handed
skeleton in the lower left corner, riding the cart full of skulls:
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/bruegel/death.jpg
Close-up here:
http://www.abcgallery.com/B/bruegel/bruegel40.html
I have a better reproduction of this painting in a book at home, where I'm
not at the moment. There's a lot of detail you can't see on these little
web-size pictures. I think Bruegel may have painted some more hgs, but I forget
what the paintings are called.
This painting is from the 1500's, so that doesn't help Chris Nogy, but I'd
think that someone would be making reproductions based on this painting.
Melissa
Chris Nogy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OK, we all know that the progression historically of the vielle was big
organistrum - box sinphone - Bosch. Period. Right?
I have rather a dislike of doing what everyone else does, especially in my
medieval recreations. I have found that in most cases there were as many
versions and presentations of relatively common items as there were people who
would have built them, and so I can be unique by maintaining fidelity to the
concepts and the methods of the time, applying them with reason and
craftsmanship. I like to do things that scream out 'hey, there is absolutely
NO reason I could not have existed' rather than building things I can document
completely, as often only the richest or most well connected had documentation
left of their items.
I would like to build something that fits in the 1400s that is not a box
sinphone, something that is a first generation 'distinct keybox' type of
instrument that would be contemporary in capabilities with the Bosch but have
its own look and feel.
But all the documentation I can find goes from organistrum to sinphone to
Bosch, there are no other pieces that I can draw a conjecture upon. I realize
I don't have access to as many pieces or exhibits or displays living in the
central US as people in many parts of the world, but I can't find anything
contemporary with the Bosch.
I could go off on a lark and build something with a flat top, back, and
sides, vaguely similar to some viol and fyddle forms, and that would make
sense, but not enough sense.
There is a lot of experience and a lot of knowledge in the participants on
this list, I would appreciate input by anyone who might have ideas on a
potential late medieval / early renaissance gurdy that is NOT a Bosch. Ideas
on wheel size, string number and role, crank size. For example, I know that at
that time music was becoming more entertainment, more secular. Would this
indicate the wheel size and crank size would be getting bigger so that players
could play longer, or the wheel size and crank size getting smaller so that
players could play more brightly and lively?
I want to be able to present deductive documentation for something that
reasonably could have existed. I don't know what changes in body shape would
have occurred. I know that there are instruments built in period (citole,
viol, etc) that exist today with curved tops, but many of those are conjectured
to have been modified in the late 1500s or later and may have had flat tops
replaced with the newer features.
Anyone interested in some virtual instrument development?
Thanks
Chris Nogy
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On 2/3/2007 at 1:46 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder if he is playing Branle De Cheveaux.
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