Hi Seth,

What you will need is a wood that bends well without grain tear-out and that provides a smooth surface without irregularities. There are any number of woods that should work. There are books (I don't have them at hand) that rate woods for bending and other properties. You could use them to identify a wood you like that is sufficiently bendable and relatively hand and strong. You'll also need to watch out for oil content: there are any number of woods that might otherwise be suitable, but which have a high oil content. Others can suggest specific woods, but if you're going with a thin banding, I see no reason the fruit woods wouldn't work. (A plum banding could be very attractive.)

However, I'd be worried about your statement that you're going to band it to a piece of cherry. Solid wood, even as a core, is going to give you grief. If you want the look of cherry, you'd probably be better off using a good quality ply for the core (for stability) and putting on a cherry veneer over it.

In terms of thickness for the banding, you want it thin enough to bend well and thick enough that you have some meat to work with as you true the wheel. ~2 mm is probably good, depending on the wood, but there is no reason you can't go a bit thicker or a little thinner if the wood you are using for the banding will support it. The wheel in my current instrument is banded with what appears to be 2 mm cherry. (I didn't build it and the wood could be something else that looks similar.)

Best,

-Arle



On Dec 17, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Seth wrote:

While we are on the topic of making I need to ask a question.... Instead of making a plywood wheel as I did on my last one I'm going to try the laminated method.... I've heard holly is good... Is their any other woods that work well???? I'm going to be banding it to a piece of cherry wood.. How thick should the band be...

http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/texasbagpiper/?action=view&current=DSCI0029.jpg

Also, How thick should the band be?????.... Thanks, Seth

Seth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You might want to stay away from that one too .. I've not heard anything good about the N.Sweet Hurdy Gurdies... I know it's tempting since they are so cheap but you get what you pay for.. seth

Joe Mejia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Arle et al.,

Thanks for the tips about the kit. I'll stay away from it.

I was looking at the Chinook, and also this one:http://larkinthemorning.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_HUR002_A_Nouveau++Flat+Back+Hurdy+Gurdy+by+Nathan+Sweet_E_ . I was hoping there might be something cheaper out there. I guess not though, right? I suppose if the instrument isn't mass produced, there aren't going to be low priced models. I'm coming from the world of guitar. Years after I began playing, I now have some nice guitars that cost quite a bit, but I started on one found at a garage sale for just a few dollars. I was praying for a kind of deja vu with the hurdy-gurdy.

I'm located in Chicago. I've seen people in the area play them before, but I don't know them personally or anything like that.

- Joe


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HG] Customizing a kit
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:05:38 -0500

Joe,

On this list you will get few kind words about the kits. Let's just say that they all have deficiencies that are especially problematic when you do not yet know how to take care of problems. The Musikit one is especially bad in many ways. While you can get a *playable* instrument from them, you will spend large amounts of time (and need access to tools and materials) to rectify its problems. With a kit the best I think you can aspire to is an "OK" instrument, and that only with a lot of work.

Starting the hurdy gurdy is a challenge as it is and having a bad/ mediocre instrument makes it that much harder. (I speak from experience, unfortunately.) If you want relatively inexpensive, yet good quality, consider ordering the Hackmans' Chinook model: http://www.hurdygurdy.com/products/chinook.htm ($1800)

Where are you located Joe? It might make sense to see if there are any players in your area whom you could visit and learn from before you decide what you want to do. Even with a kit, your time investment is going to be substantial, so you should be sure you're getting what you want. And if you're going to plunk down a minimum of $1800 for an instrument, you'll really want to do your homework.

-Arle





On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:16 PM, Joe Mejia wrote:

Hello group,

My name is Joe and I'm brand new to the hurdy-gurdy. As a matter of fact, I neither know how to play nor do I own a hurdy-gurdy. But I am looking into fixing both of those problems soon.

I've been researching the instrument and watching this mailing list for a little while and I've come to the conclusion that I want a hurdy with a chromatic keyboard. I read that it opens up many more options for playing music. I also want one that is affordable, since I am but a poor college student trying to finish up school. The latter part has been a real issue so far. This isn't a cheap hobby!

So, I found some kits on the internet in my price range, but the problem is they have diatonic keyboards (Or tangents? What is the correct term?). I was wondering, since I am somewhat handy at tinkering, would it be possible to convert a diatonic kit, such as the one found at musikit.com (http://www.musikit.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=hurdy ), into a chromatic keyboard setup?

Thanks in advance,

- Joe

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