yes Scott ... and i just  cheked at my plans  2 min ago  .. i dont know  if all 
plans are like this  by other sellers ,  but this one is      full size . 
sylvain
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  Subject: Re: hurdy gurdy kits was RE: [HG] accordion tuning


       If it an argument between kits and professionally build instruments the 
pro built instruments win hands down. However, if you are inclined to build one 
why must you buy a kit. 
       If you are looking to save money and you are determined to build your 
own then go for a really good set of plans. Even if you do not read French the 
"La vielle a roue" by Michel Pignol (ISBN 2-9522433-0-1) is a VERY complete set 
of informative plans and diagrams. Buy the books and plans, your own wood, the 
metal to make the crank and axle or buy them from a good source, buy the tuning 
pegs and strings and in the end you are out $300 to $500. The same as the 
poorly designed and oft maligned kits. Then start asking questions that you 
can't answer from the book. 
        By buying a poor quality kit that someone else bought the parts for and 
put in a box and then marked up to the $300-500 range so they could make a tidy 
profit you are spending the money that you could have spent buying a good set 
of plans, the right parts, and good tone wood. If the whole process is just for 
the convenience of the kit and the "I want it now" mentality ( I fall trap to 
this myself) then you are giving up the quality that comes from the right parts 
and plans. 
       My suggestion is to spend the time doing it, ask questions and make sure 
you design and build what you want, not what you can get right now. It ends the 
debate about kits or pro built versus money. If you have the time and the 
inclination to build it yourself don't buy a kit, buy the tools to make the 
instrument properly. Afterwards if you don't like the first one you don't have 
to pay for the tools to build the next one. You also learn a lot about them in 
the process.

     Scott





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