Perhaps a gurdy without a keybox? Did they make such things? It would stand to reason that they might since you may simply want a drone to accompany the vielle and the psaltry. Such an instrument would be a lot easier to build Yes, iconography isn't reliable but I might look at other depictions from similar times before dismissing it as just a badly drawn gurdy. If there are other keyless medieval gurdies in the iconography - well it stands to reason that some gurdies didn't have keyboxes. A while ago, I did a great deal of research into medieval cottages. I looked at all the pictures I could find of medieval cottages and their furnishings. Interestingly, most of them had pictures of a canopy bed in the cottage. I assumed that the artists just liked to draw them - made the drawing more colorful. Then I built a medieval cottage with a thatched roof, camped in it and I discovered that while a canopy bed seems frivolous in modern times - it's essential in a medieval cottage. It provides privacy, provides protection from bugs dropping off the thatch into the house, rain dripping in and it also allows you to regulate the heat. By moving one curtain half open, you can drop the temperature in the bed 5 degrees - very handy. So I guess the moral of the story is if the drawing doesn't depict what you expect to see, it doesn't necessarily mean that the drawing is wrong - perhaps your perception is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arle Lommel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [HG] Can someone identify this instrument?


Be very careful about reading too much into period depictions of instruments. While they are a valuable resource, their value is difficult to determine. Many of the artists who made such images seem to have been more familiar with other artists' renditions than with the instruments themselves, and very often the instruments were used to evoke certain social settings, not necessarily to accurately depict them. Imagine someone in the future trying to accurately determine HG technique from stills in Captains Courageous, for instance. (At least there you get an accurate image of the instrument itself). If you browse the pages of the Galpin Society Journal, there are quite frequently articles on reconstructing instruments that discuss the difficulties of determining all sorts of characteristics of them. Iconographic evidence is more often used to provide dates for instruments than accurate forms. (That said, the stuff in the Portico in Santiago is unusually detailed and suggests careful observation rather than putting something vaguely HG shaped in a picture.)

Another way of looking at this: how accurate are the other images of instruments in that picture? The fidula on the left gets the shape right, and that's about it (plus the bow there is HUGE). The harp has the right general shape, but it's not quite right in the details, and the psaltery probably isn't being played (it's in the wrong position) but is reasonably shaped (but is missing bridges). I'd expect the HG there to be about as accurate as the other instruments, and since they aren't super accurate, don't rely on the HG illustration too much either.

What I would take away from most of these images is a general impression for shape, and that's about it. In the case of this instrument it suggests a plausible shape. But I would not look for any detail beyond that, not even for the sound hole type and placement. While it is possible that the keys are sticking out of the body, it doesn't seem likely since the strings aren't in the body. So if the left hand is supposed to be manipulating keys you know you have an unworkable mechanism.

-Arle


On Feb 13, 2008, at 5:24 PM, Chris Nogy wrote:

Could this be a type of sinphone, with the works inside a slightly waisted and round-ended box?

Is it just a fancification based on someone who knew certain instruments but maybe didn't know anything about gurdies?

I like the body shape, the figure 8 instruments like the early crwth kind of speak to me.

But rant on, Alden, I am very interested to hear your take.

Chris



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