Did drink a cup of coffee and realized I looked at the wrong left side. I really should try to sleep at night and wake up in the morning.
About the HG: the picture I can open here doesn't give much detail but it looks a classic flatback with, instead of a curl or head, a round head. This type of head is often seen on what's called, Flemish-type HG's. I'm sure I have a picture of one at home in my dusty archive. The question remains: do I start looking at the left or the right.... Pieter -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauwers Pieter Sent: 12 August 2008 08:25 To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: RE: [HG] Bruegel the Elder's hg Melissa, Colin, If we talk about the same detail: it could be a viola da gamba. In the following link I spot something looking like a bow, similar to some medieval bows I often see with re-enactment musicians. Maybe Brueghel misinterpreted a gamba and a keyed fiddle? And I'm pretty sure a skeleton doesn't play HG: too many rattling keys!! Pieter (http://images.google.be/imgres?imgurl=http://histoforum.digischool.nl/l uit/images/bruegel1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://histoforum.digischool.nl/luit/b ruegel1.htm&h=818&w=692&sz=183&hl=nl&start=3&sig2=lxBWrF3n3GsJrUjGar4U7A &tbnid=mD-DcwflauF3SM:&tbnh=144&tbnw=122&ei=uSqhSLeEIaiaxAH6vp2oDw&prev= /images%3Fq%3Dbreughel%2Btriomf%2Bdood%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Dnl%26safe%3Doff% 26sa%3DG) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin Sent: 12 August 2008 00:55 To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: Re: [HG] Bruegel the Elder's hg The full size painting is 117 x 162 cm so the HG must be pretty small although I haven't seen the actual painting. There's a fairly large image at http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd254/lukeprog/018Bruegel-TriumphOfDe ath.jpg It enlarges to around half life size with a click of the mouse so the actual size of the HG would be about 8cm - 3". Would it be called a guitar-shaped flat-back? Possibly too standard to "stand out"? I can't see any keys so it really IS a left handed HG (and looking at the playing arm, that seems to be turning it anti-clockwise as well)! I think the depth of the body would make the wheel stick out of the bottom of the instrument though :) - it's very thin. I'll watch the replies with interest. Colin Hill that may be too small to see enough detail? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Kacalanos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hg@hurdygurdy.com> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:16 PM Subject: [HG] Bruegel the Elder's hg > I'm afraid I haven't been keeping up with all the > emails on the list, so forgive me if this question has > been answered already. > > I see quite a lot of hg makers basing the physical > appearance of their hgs on instruments seen in the > paintings of Hieronymus Bosch. That's all well and > good, but why don't I see any hgs based on the one in > the painting "The Triumph of Death" from 1562 by > Bruegel the Elder? (AKA Brueghel) Here's a link: > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Thetriumphofdeath.jpg > The hg in this rather busy picture is in the lower > left corner, being played left-handed by the skeleton > riding on the cartload of skulls. There isn't a lot of > detail in this web picture, but I have a better > picture in a book, and I imagine the original is more > detailed than the reproduction in my book. > > I asked this same question a while ago, but I think > the discussion got sidetracked into some other topic. > > Melissa the Loud > > > > *************************************************************** Your E-mail has been scanned against Potential Virus and Spyware/Grayware dangers by the MOD BE SECURITY SYSTEMS. This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. *************************************************************** Your E-mail has been scanned against Potential Virus and Spyware/Grayware dangers by the MOD BE SECURITY SYSTEMS. This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.
