Did drink a cup of coffee and realized I looked at the wrong left side.
I really should try to sleep at night and wake up in the morning.

About the HG: the picture I can open here doesn't give much detail but
it looks a classic flatback with, instead of a curl or head, a round
head. This type of head is often seen on what's called, Flemish-type
HG's. I'm sure I have a picture of one at home in my dusty archive.
The question remains: do I start looking at the left or the right....

Pieter

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Of Lauwers Pieter
Sent: 12 August 2008 08:25
To: hg@hurdygurdy.com
Subject: RE: [HG] Bruegel the Elder's hg

Melissa, Colin,

If we talk about the same detail: it could be a viola da gamba. In the
following link I spot something looking like a bow, similar to some
medieval bows I often see with re-enactment musicians.
Maybe Brueghel misinterpreted a gamba and a keyed fiddle?
And I'm pretty sure a skeleton doesn't play HG: too many rattling keys!!

Pieter

(http://images.google.be/imgres?imgurl=http://histoforum.digischool.nl/l
uit/images/bruegel1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://histoforum.digischool.nl/luit/b
ruegel1.htm&h=818&w=692&sz=183&hl=nl&start=3&sig2=lxBWrF3n3GsJrUjGar4U7A
&tbnid=mD-DcwflauF3SM:&tbnh=144&tbnw=122&ei=uSqhSLeEIaiaxAH6vp2oDw&prev=
/images%3Fq%3Dbreughel%2Btriomf%2Bdood%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Dnl%26safe%3Doff%
26sa%3DG)


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Colin
Sent: 12 August 2008 00:55
To: hg@hurdygurdy.com
Subject: Re: [HG] Bruegel the Elder's hg

The full size painting is 117 x 162 cm so the HG must be pretty small 
although I haven't seen the actual painting.
There's a fairly large image at 
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd254/lukeprog/018Bruegel-TriumphOfDe
ath.jpg
It enlarges to around half life size with a click of the mouse so the
actual 
size of the HG would be about 8cm - 3".
Would it be called a guitar-shaped flat-back?
Possibly too standard to "stand out"?
I can't see any keys so it really IS a left handed HG (and looking at
the 
playing arm, that seems to be turning it anti-clockwise as well)!
I think the depth of the body would make the wheel stick out of the
bottom 
of the instrument though :) - it's very thin.
I'll watch the replies with interest.
Colin Hill
that may be too small to see enough detail?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melissa Kacalanos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <hg@hurdygurdy.com>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:16 PM
Subject: [HG] Bruegel the Elder's hg


> I'm afraid I haven't been keeping up with all the
> emails on the list, so forgive me if this question has
> been answered already.
>
> I see quite a lot of hg makers basing the physical
> appearance of their hgs on instruments seen in the
> paintings of Hieronymus Bosch. That's all well and
> good, but why don't I see any hgs based on the one in
> the painting "The Triumph of Death" from 1562 by
> Bruegel the Elder? (AKA Brueghel) Here's a link:
>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Thetriumphofdeath.jpg
> The hg in this rather busy picture is in the lower
> left corner, being played left-handed by the skeleton
> riding on the cartload of skulls. There isn't a lot of
> detail in this web picture, but I have a better
> picture in a book, and I imagine the original is more
> detailed than the reproduction in my book.
>
> I asked this same question a while ago, but I think
> the discussion got sidetracked into some other topic.
>
> Melissa the Loud
>
>
>
> 



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