for the "completeness" argument, the corollary to those others is 
actually loader, which is the ability to name a query to use for 
loading an entity/collection.


On Mon 20 Feb 2012 12:57:36 PM CST, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
> I find the second reason important. In some organizations, the idea of 
> developers owning a schema especially on legacy database is harder than 
> climbing the Himalaya bare foot.
> Having access to the subselect views helps.
>
> I also like it for completeness since we can override insert / update / 
> delete statements.
>
> On 20 févr. 2012, at 18:52, Steve Ebersole wrote:
>
>> subselects are a feature that was originally put in place to support
>> databases without view support and/or application developers which did
>> not have access to create views on their target database.
>>
>> I am contemplating whether we want to continue to support this.
>>
>> At this time I all real databases out there support views.  Anyone know
>> of any that do not?
>>
>> I am not inclined to leave the feature in place just for the second
>> reason.  They could always define the view in a schema in which they do
>> have access to create views.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
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