Hi Emmanuel, > Andrej, I wonder if you could share with us these memory dumps privately so > we could also analyze them.
I'm sorry but this is not possible. But I will give my best to find the root cause of this problem. Here are my findings so far: - In the memory dump with Hibernate 4 there are a lot of small String objects. The content of these objects starts always with "$PlaceHolder$." followed by a column name. This was introduced by HHH-4440. Maybe interning of these strings would help. I will try it on monday. - EntityPersisters contain SQL related strings which are never used. For example: AbstractEntityPersister#temporaryIdTableDDL and #temporaryIdTableName. It exists also in Hibernate 3. I know for sure that this #temporaryIdTableDDL is never used in our application as the database user used by the application has no rights to create temporary tables. Hibernate generates always all SQL statements regardless whether they are required during the life time of an application or not. Because Hibernate 3 shows the same behavior in this case, I wouldn't touch it for now. But you should consider it as possible improvement for the future. - We make use of UserTypes. Although the specification of UserType requires custom implementations to be immutable, Hibernate creates multiple instances, to be exactly for every occurrence of the Type annotation, of the same implementation of UserType instead of reusing already created instances. Hibernate 3 and 4 share here the behavior. This could be also improved in the future. Personally I would prefer to not use the Type annotation at all. Users of Hibernate may publish they implementations of UserType by means of the ServiceLoader from JDK 6. - There are a lot of empty ArrayLists, HashMaps and HashSets which are empty and have the default initial capacity (e.g. 10 by ArrayLists and 16 by HashMaps). But those objects exists also in the memory dump with Hibernate 3. We may improve it when we change how collections are created and filled in Hibernate code. I have done small changes to org.hibernate.mapping.SimpleValue (see http://goo.gl/yKx5D). These changes reduce the size of Configuration in my case from 16187776 bytes to 15161672. The changes may look like an ugly hack and they have higher resource costs (CPU, memory) during creation of SessionFactoryImpl. But it should help to reduce memory if we use it wherever it makes sense. What do you think? BTW, what is the purpose of CollectionHelper.EMPTY_LIST? Why don't you use Collections.EMPTY_LIST? That's all for now. Best regards, Andrej Golovnin _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev