Oh sorry, I assumed HHH-10707 not affecting me is implied ;P
No I am talking about the fix for HHH-9329 that I proposed.

Am 23.09.2016 um 19:36 schrieb Steve Ebersole:
> Well again we were just talking about HHH-10707 and you asked "will it 
> be integrated upstream"...
>
> I can tell by your reaction that you really were asking whether *your* 
> change would be integrated upstream, but that was not obviously from 
> your email :)
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:32 PM Christian Beikov 
> <christian.bei...@gmail.com <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Is the fix I proposed in my
>     PR(https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/pull/1561)
>     non-compatible?
>     Did I miss discussion about that somewhere or didn't you have time
>     to review that yet?
>
>
>     Am 23.09.2016 um 18:50 schrieb Steve Ebersole:
>>     Depends on the "fix" we all agree on. Mainly whether that leads
>>     to any non-compatible SPI changes.
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:41 AM Christian Beikov
>>     <christian.bei...@gmail.com <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com>>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>         Ahh okay, I see. Sorry, I didn't fully read my previous mail
>>         and forgot I asked that question ^^
>>         Well then I'll try upgrading to 5.2 and hope for the best :)
>>
>>         So are you considering merging that to 5.2 then?
>>
>>
>>
>>         Am 23.09.2016 um 18:36 schrieb Steve Ebersole:
>>>         Nope.  You asked:
>>>
>>>         Are the problems with Hibernate 5.1+ and Infinispan fixed
>>>         yet? I didn't
>>>         consider upgrading yet because I read of some issues.
>>>
>>>         Now its possibly I misread your reference to
>>>         HIbernate+Infinispan problems to mean the only ones I know
>>>         of. hence the HHH-10707 reference.  If you meant some other
>>>         "Hibernate 5.1+ and Infinispan" problem, then I guess you
>>>         could have been more specific ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:33 AM Christian Beikov
>>>         <christian.bei...@gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Wrong thread?
>>>
>>>
>>>             Am 23.09.2016 um 17:53 schrieb Steve Ebersole:
>>>>             There are some conceptual mismatch problem that IMO
>>>>             stem from the L2C SPI.  We are discussing that all as
>>>>             part of https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-10707
>>>>
>>>>             Whether that affects you really depends how you
>>>>             configure caching.  If you try to reuse regions for
>>>>             different types of data (entity, collection, etc) then
>>>>             it will affect you.  If you define different access
>>>>             strategies for the same region then it will affect you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 1:02 AM Christian Beikov
>>>>             <christian.bei...@gmail.com
>>>>             <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 Well to be fair, I already reported that this
>>>>                 "regression" was
>>>>                 introduced in 4.2.8 by placing the ON predicate on
>>>>                 the target table join
>>>>                 instead of the collection table join as was done
>>>>                 before in 4.2.7.SP1.
>>>>                 I am not using 4.x anymore but since Wildfly ships
>>>>                 with Hibernate 5.0, I
>>>>                 suppose that others could benefit from this too.
>>>>                 Are the problems with Hibernate 5.1+ and Infinispan
>>>>                 fixed yet? I didn't
>>>>                 consider upgrading yet because I read of some issues.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 Regards,
>>>>                 Christian
>>>>
>>>>                 Am 22.09.2016 um 22:10 schrieb Gail Badner:
>>>>                 > Hi Christian,
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 > We are only backporting critical issues and
>>>>                 regressions to 5.0 at this
>>>>                 > point, so it can't be backported to 5.0. If no
>>>>                 regressions caused by
>>>>                 > this fix are reported in 5.2, I would consider
>>>>                 backporting to 5.1.
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 > Regards,
>>>>                 > Gail
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Christian Beikov
>>>>                 > <christian.bei...@gmail.com
>>>>                 <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com>
>>>>                 <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com
>>>>                 <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 >     Thanks, I know that it's a beauty ^^
>>>>                 >     Hope this can get into all 5.x branches?
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 >     Regards,
>>>>                 >     Christian
>>>>                 >     Am 20.09.2016 um 23:05 schrieb Steve Ebersole:
>>>>                 >     > I took a quick look.  I'd prefer to see
>>>>                 better solution as we
>>>>                 >     migrate
>>>>                 >     > to SQM; but for 5.x, given how Hibernate
>>>>                 generates SQL there, I
>>>>                 >     am not
>>>>                 >     > sure how else you would possibly do this
>>>>                 >     >
>>>>                 >     >
>>>>                 >     > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:54 PM Vlad Mihalcea
>>>>                 >     > <mihalcea.v...@gmail.com
>>>>                 <mailto:mihalcea.v...@gmail.com>
>>>>                 <mailto:mihalcea.v...@gmail.com
>>>>                 <mailto:mihalcea.v...@gmail.com>>
>>>>                 >     <mailto:mihalcea.v...@gmail.com
>>>>                 <mailto:mihalcea.v...@gmail.com>
>>>>                 <mailto:mihalcea.v...@gmail.com
>>>>                 <mailto:mihalcea.v...@gmail.com>>>>
>>>>                 >     wrote:
>>>>                 >     >
>>>>                 >     >     Thanks,
>>>>                 >     >
>>>>                 >     >     I'm going to review it tomorrow.
>>>>                 >     >
>>>>                 >     >     Vlad
>>>>                 >     >
>>>>                 >     >     On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:38 PM,
>>>>                 Christian Beikov <
>>>>                 >     >christian.bei...@gmail.com
>>>>                 <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com>
>>>>                 <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com
>>>>                 <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com>>
>>>>                 >     <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com
>>>>                 <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com>
>>>>                 >     <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com
>>>>                 <mailto:christian.bei...@gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>                 >     >
>>>>                 >     >     > Hey again,
>>>>                 >     >     >
>>>>                 >     >     > I implemented the approach that I
>>>>                 proposed in the issue and a
>>>>                 >     >     test in
>>>>                 >     >     >
>>>>                 https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/pull/1561
>>>>                 >   
>>>>                  <https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/pull/1561>
>>>>                 >     >     >
>>>>                 >     >     > It detects left joins with join
>>>>                 tables that use the target
>>>>                 >     table
>>>>                 >     >     alias.
>>>>                 >     >     > The join table is replaced with a
>>>>                 subquery and the WITH clause
>>>>                 >     >     is moved
>>>>                 >     >     > to the join of the subquery.
>>>>                 >     >     >
>>>>                 >     >     > Any comments?
>>>>                 >     >     >
>>>>                 >     >     > Regards,
>>>>                 >     >     > Christian
>>>>                 >     >     >
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