The easy way to install Gitter natively on Fedora: > flatpak install flathub im.gitter.Gitter
Or you can do it via browser: Click on the main link here, then open and confirm install: https://flatpak.org/setup/Fedora/ Same again on: https://flathub.org/apps/details/im.gitter.Gitter On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 10:38, Guillaume Smet <guillaume.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It's not about having a sound, it's about having a notification e.g. if you > don't enable the OS sounds, you don't have a sound. > > E.g. I think it's your Mac notification framework that produces the sound. > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 11:31 AM Gunnar Morling <gun...@hibernate.org> > wrote: > > > I'm just on their website, e.g. https://gitter.im/debezium/dev. > > There's an icon with three sliders in the upper right corner, next to > > my own profile picture. "Notifications" let me choose when I'd like to > > have a sound, e.g. never, just for direction mentions or for general > > mentions in a room. > > Am Mo., 12. Nov. 2018 um 11:28 Uhr schrieb Guillaume Smet > > <guillaume.s...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > Are you using the webapp? > > > > > > Because I don't see any preference to enable sound and there is no sound > > at all when I get a notification. > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 11:21 AM Gunnar Morling <gun...@hibernate.org> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Have you tried "Room Settings" -> "Notifications"? We're on Gitter for > > >> Debezium, too, and in fact the notifications were too noisy for me, so > > >> I turned them off :) > > >> > > >> --Gunnar > > >> > > >> Am Mo., 12. Nov. 2018 um 10:59 Uhr schrieb Guillaume Smet > > >> <guillaume.s...@gmail.com>: > > >> > > > >> > Hi, > > >> > > > >> > So, one thing I find particularly annoying with Gitter now that we are > > >> > trying to use it for real interactions is the lack of notification > > sounds > > >> > in the webapp. When you're focused on your work, it's really easy to > > miss > > >> > the visual ones and having a sound really helped on HipChat. > > >> > > > >> > There is an open issue here: > > >> > https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitter/webapp/issues/735 . > > >> > > > >> > AFAICS in the commit log, there's one person working on Gitter and > > it's not > > >> > making tremendous progress. > > >> > > > >> > (Yeah, I know, it's Open Source, I can contribute...) > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Guillaume > > >> > > > >> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 3:47 PM Yoann Rodiere <yo...@hibernate.org> > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Hi, > > >> > > > > >> > > TL;DR: I created the Gitter rooms. Let's all go there for a few > > days, at > > >> > > least to try it? > > >> > > > > >> > > *Connecting* > > >> > > > > >> > > Obviously you can just connect to https://gitter.im/ and use the > > browser. > > >> > > You can sign in with your Github, Gitlab or Twitter account. > > >> > > > > >> > > There are also desktop/mobile applications. https://gitter.im/apps > > >> > > They only provide .deb packages, though, and I wasn't able to > > convert them > > >> > > easily using alien (I didn't try very hard). There is a snap out > > there, but > > >> > > it's an old version that isn't allow to use the Gitter APIs anymore. > > >> > > > > >> > > If you prefer to use IRC, they apparently provide a bridge. I don't > > know > > >> > > what it's worth, but you can always give it a try: see > > >> > > https://irc.gitter.im/ . > > >> > > > > >> > > *What's next?* > > >> > > > > >> > > Let's try to use it for a few days, see if everyone is comfortable > > with it? > > >> > > Let's see if there isn't any blocker for anyone, and if the news > > from other > > >> > > projects (such as WildFly moving to Slack) don't make use change > > our minds. > > >> > > > > >> > > Then if everyone is okay with it, we can finalize everything: > > >> > > > > >> > > - Invite external people to our rooms (I didn't invite anyone > > except our > > >> > > own team) > > >> > > - Advertise Gitter as our main chat platform: > > >> > > - On our websites > > >> > > - On IRC (we should at least mention it in the "message of > > the day") > > >> > > - On the hibernate-announce mailing list > > >> > > - In the REAME file of our projects through a badge: > > []( > > >> > > https://gitter.im/hibernate/hibernate-room-id > > >> > > ?utm_source=badge&utm_medium=badge&utm_campaign=pr-badge) > > >> > > - Close the HipChat rooms somehow. > > >> > > > > >> > > *Available rooms* > > >> > > > > >> > > For each of our main projects, I created one room bound to the > > GitHub > > >> > > repository for users, and *one *-dev room for our own use*. > > >> > > I also created rooms based on what I could see in HipChat > > (branding, ...). > > >> > > > > >> > > You can find a list of all rooms here: > > https://gitter.im/hibernate/home > > >> > > > > >> > > I already added people according to which room they were member of > > in > > >> > > HipChat, but I may have missed some. Please check which room you are > > >> > > subscribed to. > > >> > > > > >> > > *Settings* > > >> > > > > >> > > You can configure how often you want to be notified for each room: > > go to > > >> > > the room, click on the "settings" button next to your avatar on the > > top > > >> > > right, then "Notifications". > > >> > > In this same popup, you have the option of setting general defaults. > > >> > > > > >> > > Also, a dark theme is available: click on your avatar on the top > > right, > > >> > > then "Toggle Dark Theme". > > >> > > > > >> > > That's pretty much it. > > >> > > > > >> > > *Configuring your rooms* > > >> > > > > >> > > I configured the main rooms to receive Github notifications on the > > >> > > "activity tab" to the right, as well as Jenkins notifications for > > the > > >> > > "master" and "PR" job (when I found it). Feel free to add more > > integration > > >> > > if you want to. > > >> > > > > >> > > How to add a Jenkins integration: > > >> > > > > >> > > - If your room doesn't have a Jenkins integration yet (most > > have): > > >> > > - Go to the room on Gitter > > >> > > - Click on the "settings" button next to your avatar on the > > top > > >> > > right, then "Integrations". > > >> > > - Select "Jenkins" > > >> > > - Select the events you want to be notified of > > >> > > - Copy the webhook URL near the bottom > > >> > > - Create new credentials on Jenkins: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > http://ci.hibernate.org/credentials/store/system/domain/_/newCredentials > > >> > > - In the "Kind" field, select "Secret text" > > >> > > - Leave the "Scope" to "Global" > > >> > > - In the "Secret" field, paste the webhook URL > > >> > > - In the "ID" field, put "gitter-webhook-url-<ID of your > > room>" > > >> > > - In the "description" field, put "Gitter webhook URL for > > the <ID > > >> > > of your room> room" > > >> > > - Click "OK" > > >> > > - For each Jenkins job: > > >> > > - On the job page in Jenkins, click "Configure" > > >> > > - Select the "Job Notifications" tab near the top > > >> > > - Click "Add endpoint" > > >> > > - Leave the format to "JSON" and the protocol to "HTTP" > > >> > > - Set "URL Source" to "Credentials Store" > > >> > > - In the "URL" box, select the entry corresponding to your > > room, > > >> > > which should normally appear as "Gitter webhook URL for the > > <ID of > > >> > > your room> room" > > >> > > - Click "Save" > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Hibernate NoORM Team > > >> > > yo...@hibernate.org > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 11:40, Yoann Rodiere <yo...@hibernate.org> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > I think all day-to-day users of our chat voted. Here are the > > results: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > IRC: 4 Yes, 5 "if need be", 6 no. > > >> > > > Slack: 5 Yes, 3 "if need be", 7 no > > >> > > > Zulip: 5 Yes, 3 "if need be", 7 no > > >> > > > Gitter: 10 Yes, 1 "if need be", 4 no > > >> > > > > > >> > > > It seems Gitter won. That's the only option with more "Yes" than > > "No"... > > >> > > > It's got the most "Yes" (even counting "if need be"), and perhaps > > more > > >> > > > importantly it's got the least amount of "no". > > >> > > > > > >> > > > To those who voted no: if you have specific concerns about > > Gitter, could > > >> > > > you please mention them here? Maybe we can find solutions to some > > of the > > >> > > > problems. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I'll look into moving the Hibernate Search chat to Gitter and > > will report > > >> > > > back on this thread. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Yoann Rodière > > >> > > > Hibernate NoORM Team > > >> > > > yo...@hibernate.org > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 08:25, Yoann Rodiere <yo...@hibernate.org> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> Not everyone voted, far from it; we're missing votes from Gail, > > >> > > >> Guillaume, Fabio, Chris, Davide, Emmanuel, Koen. So no, no > > consensus > > >> > > yet. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I sent an email to them off-list, perhaps they didn't see this > > thread. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Provisional results are as follows: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> IRC: 2 Yes, 3 "if need be", 3 no > > >> > > >> Slack: 2 Yes, 2 "if need be", 4 no > > >> > > >> Zulip: 2 Yes, 3 "if need be", 3 no > > >> > > >> Gitter: 6 Yes, 0 "if need be", 2 no > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> So Gitter seems on the verge of winning, but apparently some > > people are > > >> > > >> categorically against it, so I'd say we'll have to give them a > > chance to > > >> > > >> explain why. I'll wait for everyone to answer, though, since > > they could > > >> > > >> completely change the results. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Yoann Rodière > > >> > > >> Hibernate NoORM Team > > >> > > >> yo...@hibernate.org > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 13:35, Steve Ebersole <st...@hibernate.org > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> Any consensus on this yet? > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:21 AM Sanne Grinovero < > > sa...@hibernate.org> > > >> > > >>> wrote: > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>>> Thanks for starting this! > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> The choice of IRC is a bit special on the list as we never > > intended it > > >> > > >>>> to be killed: it has been historically important and we should > > >> > > >>>> maintain some level of reachability on it. So voting for the > > "IRC" > > >> > > >>>> choice just means a preference to not use anything else on top > > of it, > > >> > > >>>> while alternatively we'' be using X on top of IRC, albeit with > > a > > >> > > >>>> preference to use X for team conversations. > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> Also good to remind: please try to be on IRC as well > > occasionally as > > >> > > >>>> many in the OSS community we integrate with will reach out > > there. > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> Thanks, > > >> > > >>>> Sanne > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 09:46, Yoann Rodiere < > > yo...@hibernate.org> > > >> > > >>>> wrote: > > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > Hi, > > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > TL;DR: please vote here if you don't want to end up having > > to use a > > >> > > >>>> chat > > >> > > >>>> > tool you don't like: > > https://doodle.com/poll/h6scc9bsh6a4ymre > > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > HipChat Cloud will stop working on February 15th, 2019 [1]. > > We need > > >> > > to > > >> > > >>>> > choose an alternative before we have our back against the > > wall, so > > >> > > >>>> I'll try > > >> > > >>>> > to resurrect the conversation. > > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > As a reminder, Stride is no longer an option: Atlassian > > cancelled > > >> > > the > > >> > > >>>> > project, and encourages users to migrate to Slack. > > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > The discussed options so far were: > > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > - *Moving back to IRC*. Aye: ?; nay: ? > > >> > > >>>> > Pros: simple as hell. > > >> > > >>>> > Cons: basic as hell; we won't keep the chat history. > > >> > > >>>> > - *Migrating to Slack* [6], as suggested by Atlassian > > [2]. Aye: > > >> > > >>>> > Christian B; Nay: ? > > >> > > >>>> > Pros: we will keep the chat history (I think). > > >> > > >>>> > Cons: not open-source; desktop client consumes a lot of > > >> > > resources. > > >> > > >>>> > - *Migrating to Zulip* [3]. Aye: Emmanuel, Yoann. Nay: > > Guillaume > > >> > > >>>> (kind > > >> > > >>>> > of). > > >> > > >>>> > Pros: Advanced conversation management thanks to the > > "topics" > > >> > > >>>> feature. > > >> > > >>>> > Cons: Complex to use because of the "topics" feature; we > > won't > > >> > > >>>> keep the > > >> > > >>>> > chat history (1). > > >> > > >>>> > - *Migrating to Gitter* [5] (we'll create different rooms, > > >> > > >>>> probably). > > >> > > >>>> > Aye: ?, Nay: ? > > >> > > >>>> > Pros: Users seem to actually go there, so we could have > > our "live > > >> > > >>>> > support" rooms next to our "internal discussion" rooms. > > >> > > >>>> > Cons: not open-source; we won't keep the chat history (1). > > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > I created a poll based on the discussion we had on the thread > > >> > > >>>> > "[hibernate-dev] Stride". I think everyone had the time to > > suggest > > >> > > >>>> another > > >> > > >>>> > option. > > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > Please vote here and now, or remain silent forever ;): > > >> > > >>>> > https://doodle.com/poll/h6scc9bsh6a4ymre > > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > I'd suggest the following rules: if there's a single clear > > winner (a > > >> > > >>>> > platform that everyone would be happy with), we'll pick that > > one. If > > >> > > >>>> there > > >> > > >>>> > are multiple clear winners, whoever does the migration work > > will > > >> > > pick > > >> > > >>>> > what's easier to set up (taking into account the various > > >> > > >>>> integrations). > > >> > > >>>> > Otherwise, back to discussing it on this thread... > > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > (1) There seems to be some work in progress on a migration > > tool from > > >> > > >>>> > HipChat to Zulip, but it doesn't seem to be ready yet [4] > > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > [1] > > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > > > https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack/faq#faq-da2b66a1-53d3-4c4e-a405-467d961336f7 > > >> > > >>>> > [2] https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack/migration > > >> > > >>>> > [3] https://hibernate.zulipchat.com/ > > >> > > >>>> > [4] https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/10647 > > >> > > >>>> > [5] https://gitter.im/hibernate/hibernate-orm > > >> > > >>>> > [6] https://slackdemo.com/ > > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > Yoann Rodière > > >> > > >>>> > Hibernate NoORM Team > > >> > > >>>> > yo...@hibernate.org > > >> > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > >>>> > hibernate-dev mailing list > > >> > > >>>> > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org > > >> > > >>>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >> > > >>>> hibernate-dev mailing list > > >> > > >>>> hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org > > >> > > >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list > > >> > > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org > > >> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > hibernate-dev mailing list > > >> > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org > > >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > hibernate-dev mailing list > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
