I think its harder for XDoclet to stick to the kind of rapid release
schedule we have, simply because XDoclet must be MUCH harder to test.
You have a *lot* more platforms and platform-specific stuff going on
there.

Normally i can run tests against about 4 databases before a release
and be confident that nothing is broken. That takes about half an
hour max. (Oh, and then it even takes much less time to *build*
Hibernate).

Aslak, thanks for comitting the Middlegen plugin; I havn't abandoned
it, I need to come back to it and finish it off sometime in the next
couple of weeks. (I have a couple of other things to do deep inside
Hibernate2 first.)







> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sven
> Welte
> Sent: 20. januar 2003 23:36
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Hibernate] How about a new mailinglist for announce?
>
>
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Ara Abrahamian wrote:
>
> > From my experience with XDoclet, these kinds of blabla-announce lists
> > don't work well. Xdoclet-user has hundreds of subscribers,
> > xdoclet-announce has only tens.
> >
> > Ara.
>
> Hmm. I don't think that you can compare Hibernate and XDoclet here. If I
> have a look at xdoclet-announce there were only two messages posted
> around Oct-2001. Maybe this is the reason why there are only 10
> subscribers.
> Just have a look a the release frequency: XDoclet had 3 releases.
> Hibernate had around 40 releases (wow, never thought that there were
> _that_ much) in the same timeframe.
>

We (XDoclet team) certainly have something to learn about agile development
from the Hibernate team. Well done guys! 40 releases!!

Off topic: The Middlegen plugin for Hibernate is now in Middlegen's CVS.
Please try it out.

Aslak



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