Unfortunantly I only have the microsoft one..  I had heard jTDS was better,
and faster, but have never found the evidence to back up that rumor..

Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandeep Dath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Problem with Hibernate and MSSQL JDBC diver
> when Rereading columns
>
>
> Eric,
>
> Have you tried using the jTDS driver?  If so, what were your
> results? I
> believe jTDS passed all the Hibernate tests? (Is that a true
> statement?)
>
> Sandeep
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Eric Pugh
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:47 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Problem with Hibernate and MSSQL
> JDBC diver when
> Rereading columns
>
>
> I have a unit test demonstrating this issue.  I would like to
> commit it in
> test/mssql directory.  I also want to commit a couple other
> unit tests that
> demonstate limitations with MSSQL and hibernate.  For
> instance, the standard
> tests fail due to some timestamp issues, but it would be nice to show
> complimentary MSSQL tests passing..  Maybe tune the unit
> tests to take into
> account the database platform, although this does mean
> pandering to each
> jdbc driver!
>
> I think the fix for my issue is to read all the rows only
> once, which looks
> like it is doable.. Eric
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Eric
> > Pugh
> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:29 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Hibernate] Problem with Hibernate and MSSQL JDBC
> diver when
> > Rereading columns
> >
> >
> > We have a problem with the Microsoft JDBC driver throwing a
> "can not
> > reread column" exception.  We have discovered that it only appears
> > if the resultset
> > contains a NTEXT, TEXT or IMAGE column. The driver then imposes the
> > limitation that columns must be read increasing column
> > indexes and that they
> > may not be re-read. This limitation is permitted by the
> JDBC spec: See
> > <http://java.sun.com/products/jdk/1.4.1/docs/guide/jdbc/spec/j
> > dbc-spec.frame
> > 7> .html#4149 "For maximum portability, columns within a row
> > should be read
> > in left-to-right order, and each column should only be read
> once. This
> > reflects implementation limitations in some underlying database
> > protocols.
> >
> > I would like to commit to the /test directory some unit tests
> > demonstrating this problem.  I believe it can be fixed by just
> > enforinc the left-to-right
> > order, by reading columns by index versus by name.  I wrote a
> > unit test that
> > only runs if the Dialect is Sybase.  However, should we
> > create a subclass of
> > SybaseDialect that is MSSQLDialect so that the test case will
> > only run with
> > MSSQLServer versus Sybase.
> >
> > Any objection to committing the unit tests?  Even if we don't solve
> > the problem, it can serve to Prove the problem exists..
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Gavin
> > > King
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:41 AM
> > > To: Neill Robbins
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Hibernate issue found on
> > > [Springframework-developer] - Hibernate commit/rollback
> > >
> > >
> > > This is correct behaviour. If the commit() fails, you are
> > supposed to
> > > call rollback(), as described in the Hibernate doco.
> > >
> > > Neill Robbins wrote:
> > >
> > > >Sirs,
> > > >
> > > >I noticed this post on the Spring developer ist.  It seemed
> > > important enough to make you guys aware of...
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >N
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: jürgen höller [werk3AT]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Sent: 16 October 2003 05:53
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate
> commit/rollback
> > > >Importance: Low
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >You're right, of course, but there's a general issue. I've
> > > checked the implementation of Hibernate's
> JDBCTransaction: It really
> > > behaves the way I've outlined, i.e. if there's a flushing
> failure on
> > > commit, the commit call returns without having rolled back the
> > > database transaction. We need to make sure that the database
> > > transaction is completed, i.e. either committed or rolled back,
> > > after the transaction manager has finished its work.
> > > >
> > > >Juergen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Gesendet: Do 16.10.2003 02:34
> > > > An: jürgen höller [werk3AT]
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Betreff: Re: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate
> > > commit/rollback
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Juergen,
> > > >
> > > > The log shows that it is a MySQL database - do we know
> > > that the table is one
> > > > that support transactions?  If not then no matter what
> > > we or hibernate do is
> > > > going to help.
> > > >
> > > > Thomas
> > > >
> > > > > There's a bug entry on SourceForge regarding
> > > HibernateTransactionManager's
> > > > > committing:
> > > > >
> > > > > If the flushing of changes is delayed (i.e.
> > > HibernateTemplate is in
> > > > > FLUSH_AUTO mode, not in FLUSH_EAGER), the Hibernate
> > > commit call will first
> > > > > implictly cause a flush. The problem is that that
> > > flush might throw an
> > > > > exception which causes Hibernate's commit
> > > implementation to return with the
> > > > > exception, without a commit but unfortunately also
> > > without a rollback.
> > > > >
> > > > > The current implementation of
> > > HibernateTransactionManager will not cause an
> > > > > explicit rollback in that case, as it assumes that
> > > the commit has failed and
> > > > > caused an implicit rollback. It takes that assumption
> > > from JTA: After a
> > > > > failed commit, you don't have to invoke rollback
> > > anymore; the failed commit
> > > > > has already completed the transaction with a rollback.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I understand correctly, a JDBC driver should
> > > behave the same: If a commit
> > > > > has failed, rollback does not have to be invoked
> > > anymore. Would it actually
> > > > > hurt if one still invoked rollback? Would that get
> > > ignored with most drivers,
> > > > > or would it cause yet another exception, a la
> > > "transaction is already rolled
> > > > > back" or "no transaction anymore"?
> > > > >
> > > > > I intend to fix the Hibernate transaction issue like
> > > this: First invoke flush
> > > > > manually and treat it like data access, i.e. just
> > > commit if it succeeded,
> > > > > else cause an explicit rollback. Aren't the semantics
> > > of Hibernate's commit
> > > > > method a bit odd? Shouldn't it cause a rollback
> > > itself if the flush failed?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure about JDO in that respect. It will also
> > > flush changes at commit,
> > > > > and there is no chance to cause an explicit flush
> > > before. The spec and the
> > > > > javadocs are unclear about whether a flushing failure
> > > causes a rollback of
> > > > > the datastore transaction, but I assume so. At least,
> > > it seems that rollback
> > > > > can and should not be invoked after an exception on commit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone practical experience with these issues?
> > > > >
> > > > > Juergen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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