This did not seem to go through the first time around.  Here goes again...

-----Original Message-----
From: Ebersole, Steve 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:05 AM
To: 'Emmanuel Bernard'; Ara Abrahamian
Cc: 'hibernate-devel'
Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Startup time


I can do that.  I'll run it through both JProbe and OptimizeIt...



-----Original Message-----
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Emmanuel Bernard
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:41 AM
To: Ara Abrahamian
Cc: 'hibernate-devel'
Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Startup time


No this is impossible: we need a second pass compilation. And "from 
Object" request the whole mapping to work as expected

Ara Abrahamian wrote:

>Most probably loading the hbm files and creating metadata objects is the
>bottleneck? And the solution is to lazy load them?
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>Ara.
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>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gavin King
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:43 PM
>>To: hibernate-devel
>>Subject: [Hibernate] Startup time
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>>OK, I start to hear complaints about the startup time of Hibernate
>>almost everywhere I go now. It's an important issue, because it's a
>>problem that gets worse as people's applications get bigger, and it's
>>something that slows down developers. If there's /anything/ we are
>>about, it is about increasing the speed of development of large
>>applications. So this issue really cuts to the core of what we are
>>trying to achieve here.
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>>Max is trying to implement serialization of the SessionFactory, as one
>>possible solution, but perhaps there is some other way we could optimize
>>stuff. Does someone want to profile Hibernate startup, and discover
>>where the slow methods are? At least find out which work is dominating
>>at startup time?
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>>--
>>Gavin King
>>+61 410534454
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>>Hibernate
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