BTW is it makes sence to discuss ? I am not sure this
kind of proxies are will be usefull for public.

--- baliuka juozas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Probably single workaround is public "cast" or
> "narrow" method in API, we can load object if it is
> not loaded and to remove proxy from session cache.
> 
> --- Gavin King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Yes, exactly. 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: baliuka juozas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 1:22 PM
> > To: Gavin King;
> > hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Field interception based
> > proxies
> > 
> > 
> > I see no good way to make it lazy and to create
> the
> > right type for
> > polymorphic associations, if I understand the
> > problem correctly then we
> > need to know "discriminator" value before to
> create
> > instance anyway. 
> >  
> > --- Gavin King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Will it work with polymorphic -to-one
> > associations?
> > > 
> > > You still need the indirection in that case,
> don't
> > you?
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: baliuka juozas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 11:37 AM
> > > To: Gavin King;
> > > hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Field interception
> based
> > proxies
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think it must be usefull to avoid proxy
> > generation
> > > if persistent class
> > > implements "HibernateProxy"
> > > itself. I am going to implement it at build time
> > > using field interceptor
> > > ( it will take less time on startup and it will
> > use
> > > less permanent
> > > memory ). It is not a "proxy", but it will work
> in
> > > the same way  from
> > > user point of view ( without changes in mapping
> > > files, just an heuristic
> > > optimization ). As I understand it  needs
> trivial
> > > changes in proxy
> > > factory, but it makes sence with many domain
> > > classes.
> > > 
> > > --- Gavin King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Juozas, I don't really understand what you are
> > > proposing here.
> > > > 
> > > > What is a "field interception based proxy"?
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > On Behalf Of
> > > > baliuka juozas
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 9:30 AM
> > > > To: hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > Subject: [Hibernate] Field interception based
> > > proxies
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I am going to implement field interception
> based
> > > proxies, I will need 
> > > > this stuff for projects with many classes (I
> see
> > > it can be implemnted 
> > > > using custom persister), probably it makes
> sence
> > > to add this feature 
> > > > for hibernate too if this is interesting for
> > > hibernate community.
> > > > Implemetation must be trivial, but there is
> > single
> > > problem with id 
> > > > field name. I can asume this field name is
> > always
> > > "id", but if we are 
> > > > going to make this stuff public then we need
> to
> > > find better way.
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